New Job Speculation

[Eternus]

Well I will start with Corsair since it is a buffer and I am a BRD. I can see some awesome possibilities and some shit that SE probably will not allow. We do know Corsair will be capable of giving a JA of one party member to the rest of the party. I do not think these will be active job abilities due to the fact that giving everyone in the party Meditate or Convert might break the fucking game lol. Still the passive ones are interesting enough.

NIN - Dual Wield (situational but could be hot) and Subtle Blow (less worrying about melee TPing on HNM... would put more melee in alliances on stuff like Wyrms instead of BLM and SMN hopefully
WAR - Double Attack (hotness)
THF - Triple Attack (also hotness)
BRD - Resist Silence (poooooop in most situations)
DRG - Accuracy Boost (interesting for high eva mobs)
DRK - Attack Bonus (high def mobs)
RDM - Fast Cast (hot for mages, brd and utsu tankers since it is confirmed fast cast effects utsu timers)
BLM - Magic Attack Bonus (lol), Conserve MP (could be hot)
SMN - Auto Refresh (nice)
BST - Killer effects (not bad for tanks in some situations)
SAM - Store TP (yeah that would own)
RNG - Ranged Accuracy boost? (not really so hot)
MNK - Martial Arts skill? (crap lol), HP boost (hot for tanks methinks)

WHM and PLD I forget their passive abilities to be honest

I thought about this last night while drunk haha. Corsair could really own depending on how often you get the positive result and whether this shit is aoe and how bad the negatives can be. Still Corsair might replace BRD in some situtations, but this shit will stack with BRD songs.. which is hot as hell. What do you guys think? Care to speculate on Puppetmaster or Blue Mage? Sorry for the long ass post haha.

[Confuse]

WHM - Regeneration, Clear Mind, Magic Defense Bonus, Divine Veil
PLD - Physical Defense Up, Undead Killer, Resist Sleep

I would kill for to get tripple attack for my war

[Remembrance]

Whm = Magic def bonus like hardcore ( could be cool I guess 0_o)

Pld = hmm? People still use pld? =x Kidding, IV levels of Def bonus trait, and resist sleep.

Bah I hath been bested! =(

[Hirronimus]

I swear I saw debate on KI forums...

Most likely it will be Job Traits like you stated. Seriously doubt it will do anything in regards to Resist traits or circles.

Now Auto-Regen from WHM combined with soon to be released Auto-Refresh for PLD is hawt!

In same sense a SMN in PT with Corsair giving Auto-Refresh to PT members would be nice, but it's limited refresh in comparrison to Ballads or Refresh. Unless you have COR/BRD lawl.

[Eternus]

lol I don't really read KI at all sorry

[nivlakian]

NIN - Dual Wield (situational but could be hot) and Subtle Blow (less worrying about melee TPing on HNM... would put more melee in alliances on stuff like Wyrms instead of BLM and SMN hopefully

I doubt Dual Wield would be a transferrable. I mean, if Corsair used it, you get to equip a second weapon and when the effect wears off suddenly your second weapon goes away and you lose tp?

The only thing I could imagine at best is that if you're subbing nin, you may get an enhanced dual wield type of effect where your attack speed increases.

THF - Triple Attack (also hotness)

I believe it was said THF gives their party a critical hit bonus in the Dev Panel at the festival (although THF doesn't have that as a trait). There's also a chance that they may give Evasion Bonus instead of Triple Attack which may be nice for NINs when tanking certain things.

[Eternus]

Yeah true about the Dual Wield thing. Subtle blow is hotter IMO, well on some HNM it would be. Yeah I didn't put Treasure Hunter in there for THF, because I do not see SE doing that lol.

[Septimus]

THF - Triple Attack (also hotness)

I believe it was said THF gives their party a critical hit bonus in the Dev Panel at the festival (although THF doesn't have that as a trait). There's also a chance that they may give Evasion Bonus instead of Triple Attack which may be nice for NINs when tanking certain things.

Yeah, it might be that Square will make abilities themed for some jobs. Like Cure Potency +5% from WHM, Spell Interruption -5% from PLD, or LFG time +50% from DRG. (I know, how did the DRG even get in the party in the first place.) That way even those jobs would get a boost from the Corsair.

[NynJa]

Well I will start with Corsair since it is a buffer and I am a BRD. I can see some awesome possibilities and some shit that SE probably will not allow. We do know Corsair will be capable of giving a JA (Job Ability) of one party member to the rest of the party. I do not think these will be active job abilities due to the fact that giving everyone in the party Meditate or Convert might break the fucking game lol. Still the passive ones are interesting enough.

15 jobs - A bunch of Job Traits.

WHM and PLD I forget their passive abilities to be honest

I thought about this last night while drunk haha. Corsair could really own depending on how often you get the positive result and whether this shit is aoe and how bad the negatives can be. Still Corsair might replace BRD in some situtations, but this shit will stack with BRD songs.. which is hot as hell. What do you guys think? Care to speculate on Puppetmaster or Blue Mage? Sorry for the long ass post haha.

So, I may be nit picking, but you listed a bunch of Job Traits, after saying that Corsair can exchange Job Abilities.

[Eternus]

So sue me, I haven't played FFXI in over a month lol. Yeah but all that shit is under abilities in the menu. Other than nitpicking do you have anything to add at all? Like you could speculate and bring to light something we didn't think of for Puppetmaster or Blue Mage instead.

[NynJa]

So sue me, I haven't played FFXI in over a month lol. Yeah but all that shit is under abilities in the menu. Other than nitpicking do you have anything to add at all? Like you could speculate and bring to light something we didn't think of for Puppetmaster or Blue Mage instead.

fine, speculations:

Puppetmaster is going to be a gay job.
Blue Mage is a beastmaster without a beast, gay.
Corsair is going to be some homoerotic job. Any job based on "luck" favors negatively towards Gaijins, which is what I am.

[BRP]

It doesn't have to be a job ability of the job. More like a characteristic. Officially they said THF would give Critical Bonus.

My version would be:

PLD - Enimity +
NIN - Subtle Blow
WAR - Double Attack (official? forget)
THF - Critical Rate + (official)
BRD - Enimity -
DRG - Accuracy Bonus
DRK - Attack Bonus
RDM - Fast Cast
BLM - Magic Attack Bonus (official)
SMN - Auto Refresh
WHM - Auto Regan or MP recovered while healing
BST - HP recovered while healing or Killer effects
SAM - Store TP
RNG - Evasion Bonus
MNK - Delay -
PUP - [One could only guess]
BLU - Magic Acc? Conserve MP?
COR - TIME PARADOX. *world explodes*

[NynJa]

It doesn't have to be a job ability of the job. More like a characteristic. Officially they said THF would give Critical Bonus.

My version would be:

WHM - Auto Regan or MP recovered while healing

WHAT THE FUCK IS REGAN ?!?
ITS REGEN FOR CHRIST SAKES.
I'M SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO SPELL THAT SHIT REGAN.

[epigram]

Corsair is SE's attempt to add job diversity as an advantage to a PT. So burn PT's with RDM/BLM, COR/WHM, WAR/NIN, SAM/NIN, THF/NIN, DRK/NIN will be the new rage...

[BRP]

WHAT THE FUCK IS REGAN ?!?
ITS REGEN FOR CHRIST SAKES.
I'M SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO SPELL THAT SHIT REGAN.

Right. You need help.

[Skyylya]

WHAT THE FUCK IS REGAN ?!?
ITS REGEN FOR CHRIST SAKES.
I'M SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO SPELL THAT SHIT REGAN.

Lol@Zeion

[Maxxthepenguin]

Assuming the concept of Corsair is giving job traits, heres what I see as likely (yeah you'll see some overlap, but I added plausible numbers.)

WAR - Double Attack (Around 5%)
MNK - HP Bonus (Probably around 3 per level)
THF - Critical hit bonus (around 5-10%)
WHM - Magic Def Bonus (I'd say 25% reduced damage)
BLM - I'd say Mag Atk Bonus but, frankly, SE seems to realize theres a power imbalance. So Conserve MP is more likely.
RDM - Fast Cast (15%)
PLD - Defense Bonus (around 2 per level)
DRK - Attack Bonus (ditto)
BST - Killer Effects is a good idea
RNG - Accuracy Bonus (Both Melee and Ranged)
SAM - Store TP or TP destroying (I like the 2nd idea more, store TP more likely)
NIN - Subtle Blow (15% reduction seems reasonable)
DRG - Haste (around 5-10%)
SMN - Max MP Up (3 per level) Autorefresh just probably isn't going to happen, I'm afraid.

A few balance things to note:
For WHM's mag def bonus, it would be awesome, possibly overpowered on wyrms of course but it also means that there is another slot taken in the tank party. And on most other mobs the need for Mag Def is not dependable.
DRG and DRK's bonuses would help them get merit parties and possibly slots on HNMs.
THF + RNG with a COR and those bonuses would make melees much more useful on high level HNMs. Crits help reduce the 0's (see: kirin) which increases TP gain.
Subtle blow and TP Destroying would be very interesting IMO

[NynJa]

Corsair is SE's attempt to add job diversity as an advantage to a PT. So burn PT's with RDM/BLM, COR/WHM, WAR/NIN, SAM/NIN, THF/NIN, DRK/NIN will be the new rage...

No bard, it fails !



As far as BRP's snide comment goes:
I've been in XP groups with whm's who had this as a regen macro
"{Regen}III, Regan fast."
How do you spell something wrong after getting the proper spelling from auto translate ?!?
And yes, that Zeion retard that Sky mentionned who I used to laugh at on various msg boards, who would make posts FULL of mistakes like that. It goes beyond a typographical error when you spell Regen as "regan" 20 times over.

[BRP]

As far as BRP's snide comment goes:

You still need help. Doesn't matter why you snap when people spell certain words incorrectly by a single letter. If you do, then you are insane.

[NynJa]

Its the concept. I have reason to snap at people spelling Regen as Regan...


as for as Corsair's BLM buff, I'd rather Conserve MP be handed out than MAB. How many jobs really need MAB ?? Now consider how much more useful Conserve MP would be around the board.

DRG, if it gives Haste, wouldnt be 5-10%. the spell Haste gives 15% I believe, as do Marches. If anything it would be 1% or 2%.