higher skill lower acc?

[Maleci]

I decided to go try a merit party on bst/nin just to see how it would do. After being out there for a while I noticed my acc was only like 80-85% which I thought was odd because DRK/NIN with the same setup almost(trading RK breeches for black cuisses on drk) runs 90% acc in the same area. I can't seem to figure out why bst acc is so much lower than drk, seeing drk axe caps at 240 and on bst axe caps at 269. How does an extra 29 skill give lower acc, wondering if anyone had any ideas because no one in game seems 2.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Where did you get your percentages? Did you parse or estimate?
What food were you using?
How many merits do each of you have?
Ever heard of randomness?

[copgary]

you fucking guy.

[Anyway]

Where did you get your percentages? Did you parse or estimate?
What food were you using?
How many merits do each of you have?
Ever heard of randomness?

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[Tilo]

Where did you get your percentages? Did you parse or estimate?
What food were you using?
How many merits do each of you have?
Ever heard of randomness?

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What is wrong with his post in this thread? I find a lot of his shit annoying, but leave Max alone if he says something worthwhile. I'm a noob to this forum but I think your post is worthless and just flaming an otherwise good and ontopic and non-emo-slashwrists-drk post.

Feel free to give me an alla card if you disagree.

[Tom Chambers]

You hit the nail on the head with your topic: Higher skill means lower acc, you've figured it out!

[Maleci]

I ran a parser for both jobs using sushi on both with no changes to merits between both runs.

[Maxxthepenguin]

What were the pre-run merits? What were the actual numbers for ACC%?
Is it that unlikely that this is within the realm of statistical insignificance and is just randomness?

[Kaylia]

Maybe he was standing behind </bradyguide>


Mithra versus Elvaan might expain it.
Axe merit can put him on the same level if you dont have any
You didnt see his TP gear?
Attack influence crit rate,and indirectly accuracy I guess



5% acc isn't randomness like some people are saying, unless the party disbanded early. It usually means whoever parsed forgot an important factor that should have been considerated.

[Gumu]

Maybe he was standing behind </bradyguide>


Mithra versus Elvaan might expain it.
Axe merit can put him on the same level if you dont have any
You didnt see his TP gear?
Attack influence crit rate,and indirectly accuracy I guess

Man, read the post before you reply. He was parsing against himself.

[Genosync]

Skill has been shown before as not that great of an ACC increase, like .7ACC/level.

I attribute it to pure randomness. w/e.

[Kaylia]

Maybe he was standing behind </bradyguide>


Mithra versus Elvaan might expain it.
Axe merit can put him on the same level if you dont have any
You didnt see his TP gear?
Attack influence crit rate,and indirectly accuracy I guess

Man, read the post before you reply. He was parsing against himself.

Where in the first post did he said he was parsing against himself? He doesn't say where his DRK parsing come from and one can only assume.

I stated possibilities that could explain the result, and all of them were and are still valid until he give us more details about how he got the parser result.

If he was parsing against himself in 2 differents xp party, it's probably why he got 2 different result.

[Janice]

I've always wondered if a lvl 10 PLD and a lvl 10 WAR both used provoke, who would get the mob. Over time, would it be 50/50? Or would the PLD somehow win out. Since we can't see the emnity stat, is it the same base for every job or are they all different?

There are a lot of stats we don't see in this game, acc being one of them. Who is to say a lvl 75 WAR with zero skill in a weapon has the same acc as a lvl 75 DRK with zero skill with the same weapon?

I don't really pay attention to melee crap like this, but you never know.

[Kaylia]

I've always wondered if a lvl 10 PLD and a lvl 10 WAR both used provoke, who would get the mob. Over time, would it be 50/50? Or would the PLD somehow win out. Since we can't see the emnity stat, is it the same base for every job or are they all different?

Whoever claim it get the "bonus" hate related to claiming and monster will stay on him.
If a 3rd person claim it, and both provoke at the same time, the 2nd voke will turn it.
Both job I compared were thief/war and war.


But your point is still valid I guess for other stats like acc i guess

[Lockecole]

There are a lot of stats we don't see in this game, acc being one of them. Who is to say a lvl 75 WAR with zero skill in a weapon has the same acc as a lvl 75 DRK with zero skill with the same weapon?

Check a mob, see what it cons. There's many ways to test accuracy, and it has been done.

Anyway back to the topic, its possible many things could have changed. I've had my parser be 2-3% off in the summary "Average" section in comparison to the "Report Summary" section. Who know's why one records it one way, and one records it another. It could just be your parser. Did you have a RDM or BLM one PT, was he casting Frost? was he casting Gravity? were they the same mobs? I dunno you hardly give any examples or details on what exactly happened in both parties, but I can assure you higher skill does not mean lower acc.

[Fistandantilus]

Well.. different exp parties, maybe someone in your drk party was doing frost or something every fight?

[^_____________^thepenguin]

Did you face the right direction? What about moon phase? Did you use the same weapon? Were you using the JP client for one character, then NA for another? Did you try with different parsers?

[Warudo Ecksu]

angelkitty oh shit

someone ban penguin fast

(angelkitty invented ^___________^ if you dont get it)

[Jotaru]

I can assure you higher skill does not mean lower acc.

Course it does noob! That's why we miss gods! We're so high level to fight them that our skill is too high and our acc is too low and we miss!

:wink:

[nivlakian]

Skill has been shown before as not that great of an ACC increase, like .7ACC/level.

Supposedly, .9acc/level after 200 skill.


To OP: This DRK you speak of has no merits? Did he use HQ food and you didn't? Are you sure his gear is identical (including weapon choice) other than the RK gear?