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    Enhance: Zanshin

    Has anyone got SAM af+1 feet and tested the Zanshin rate yet? Is it any good if so? Thanks in advance.

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    This is in no way helpful but its worth making fun of Zanshin being an ability whos usefulness goes down the better your gear becomes.

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    Better then nothing tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    This is in no way helpful but its worth making fun of Zanshin being an ability whos usefulness goes down the better your gear becomes.
    lol never thought of it that way.. same thing goes for "Call Wyvren" i suppose >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onizuka
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    This is in no way helpful but its worth making fun of Zanshin being an ability whos usefulness goes down the better your gear becomes.
    lol never thought of it that way.. same thing goes for "Call Wyvren" i suppose >.>
    no

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Onizuka
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    This is in no way helpful but its worth making fun of Zanshin being an ability whos usefulness goes down the better your gear becomes.
    lol never thought of it that way.. same thing goes for "Call Wyvren" i suppose >.>
    no
    Pretty much.

    Zanshin basically doesn't do anything when you have good gear. Call Wyvern is still useful whether you use it every 20min or not, as long as the Wyvern is up

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    How often does it proc on miss, and can it proc on WS? I could never figure.


    Only thing I remember about that skill is being pissed by it because seeing a double attack animation accompanied by the sound of a single hit isn't satisfying.

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    I remember reading it was around a 20% activation rate... Which doesn't seem too bad.

    I never bothered to try and test it myself, but 20% seems fairly accurate.

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    Yeah, it's 20%ish. Too bad if you're not a lazy fuckwit who doesn't save for haubergeon/snipers/or just fucking uses sushi it's a completely useless trait.

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    Well if your accuracy is 95%, it will be 96%. That's not useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Yeah, it's 20%ish. Too bad if you're not a lazy fuckwit who doesn't save for haubergeon/snipers/or just fucking uses sushi it's a completely useless trait.
    You get 100% hit rate on HNMs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Well if your accuracy is 95%, it will be 96%. That's not useless.
    I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not, but it just came off as funny to me for some reason.

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    thanks for the replies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Yeah, it's 20%ish. Too bad if you're not a lazy fuckwit who doesn't save for haubergeon/snipers/or just fucking uses sushi it's a completely useless trait.
    I have Haubergeon+1 and snipers and use sushi but I still miss sometimes. As far as I have noticed Zanshin kicks in a good amount of the time when I do miss, and SAM has a kinda crappy selection of foot armor so I think it might be worth a shot ~.~

    Quote Originally Posted by Rkenshin
    I remember reading it was around a 20% activation rate...
    20% naturally? or 20% with the af1+1 boots? Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Only thing I remember about that skill is being pissed by it because seeing a double attack animation accompanied by the sound of a single hit isn't satisfying.
    Its even better when you miss, Zanshin kicks in, and you miss again

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    wtf sams using sushi huh lol
    acc gear and meat is your friend for all jobs but RNG <.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    wtf sams using sushi huh lol
    acc gear and meat is your friend for all jobs but RNG <.<
    Everyone has their own prefences.

    But, meat on HNMs like Fafnir/Nidhogg where you melee for TP is just stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skittles
    20% naturally? or 20% with the af1+1 boots? Thanks.
    20% naturally, I believe.

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    I have Haubergeon+1 and snipers and use sushi
    Stopped reading here. I just logged in to tell you that you suck, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    I have Haubergeon+1 and snipers and use sushi
    Stopped reading here. I just logged in to tell you that you suck, thanks.
    I kinda have to agree, if there's any job that can get the most skill in the game for its weapon type, its SAM. Busha, Torque, and merits and you're talking about 300+ skill, on a job that basically gets most of its TP in an endgame situation via a JA, and on a job that most of the time, uses a WS solely stacked with Sneak Attack. So why do you need accuracy? So really most of your damage is coming from WSes, so PLEASE USE MEAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin

    But, meat on HNMs like Fafnir/Nidhogg where you melee for TP is just stupid.
    people melee fafnir/nidhogg? /shocked
    tier 4 magic, meditate, TA, TA WS ftw

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    I don't do end game HNMS like fafnir, tiamat on sam. If and when, I always asked to go rdm or brd.
    I just do like dynamis, limbus, xp on sam so a good amount of tp gain is from melee attacks. I dont know alot of details about how melee works. I have played rdm for so long ~.~ thanks for info tho Lockecole.

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