First WoJ LS?

[Deme]

Just wondering who were the people who originally came up with the Wall of Justice technique. I recall a GM saying the strategy was ok so i was wondering what that GM said, who was the GM, and on what server was this. Sorry to bother everyone just asking this so people can make a stronger arguement with a GM about this

[Lordwafik]

Limitbreak on Odin

[Deme]

who was the GM tho and what day was this on? thnx for replying btw

[aurik]

search function.

[Dezzimal]

There was no GM involvment with the Limibreak on Odin AV afaik. However, there was a linkshell threatened with getting jailed on Garuda who subsequently gave up and let it depop, and then a GM congratulated a linkshell on Remora for their kill. All 3 using the same tactic.

[Ichthyos]

I posted this on the Midgard AV thread, but I'll repost here.

Some people I know were fighting a yovra at the wall, and someone soloing phuabos nearby GM'd them. While in Mordion, they spoke with Senior GM Rpimunky who told them explicitly that killing AV at the wall was ok because AV could still damage people on the other side. Full chat transcript follows:

=== Area: Mordion Gaol ===
(Anja) err
(Puresin) they're in mordion?
(Sadam) o_o
(Anja) yeah
Anja : well
(Mestatic) wtf u in jail for?
(Akirashino) jailed the whm XD
(Map) well there goes our whm =x
(Anja) we killed a yovra at wall of hope
Anja : well
Anja : take a seat :3
[GM]Rpimunky : Greetings all
Vlaid waves to Rpimunky.
Anja waves.
Kedealith : hello
Kedealith : Jiyo's Asleep
[GM]Rpimunky : I brough you all here to discuss an issue which was reported,
[GM]Rpimunky : and which we confirmed.
Anja nods.
Vlaid : ok
Vlaid : What issue is this?
[GM]Rpimunky : You were observed using the environment's geometry to avoid taking damage from a certain Notorious Monster,
Anja blushes in embarrassment.
Vlaid : Hm, can you please explain?
Anja slaps Vlaid.
Anja : You know what you did
[GM]Rpimunky : Vlaid, we confirmed what you and your party did.
[GM]Rpimunky : Now,
[GM]Rpimunky : obviously you know what you did was wrong,
Anja : well
Anja : don't go that far
Kedealith : No, I don't think so.
Vlaid : When did I say that?
[GM]Rpimunky : Hold on,
Anja nods.
Anja : GO on.
Kedealith : Because GMs have watched people fight AV like that and (Congratulations!) and did nothing..
[GM]Rpimunky : This IS a violation of the PlayOnline rules,
Vlaid : Shan =/
Kedealith : It's true
[GM]Rpimunky : and if you have observed someone doing that,
Vlaid : Under what section?
Vlaid : Under what section of the T&A?
Kedealith : But a GM said it was ok...
[GM]Rpimunky : then I suggest you report it.
Anja : V don't give the man shit.
[GM]Rpimunky : Now,
Kedealith : They've watched people do it
Kedealith : Why can it be okay for some?
[GM]Rpimunky : all of you are just getting a warning.
Vlaid : Shan stop
Vlaid : Ok.
Jiyo : Didn't think I'd wake up to this
Anja : I think that was the first group that did it
Anja : wb Max
Anja licks Jiyo.
Kedealith : It was the third
Anja : Well maybe a GM didn't have their head on straight or something =/
[GM]Rpimunky : Now, the main thing that you want to be careful of is
[GM]Rpimunky : putting the monster in a position that allows you to have recieve no damage whatsoever.
[GM]Rpimunky : During the time we observed you, we didn't observe you taking any damage,
[GM]Rpimunky : which is why you were pulled here.
Anja nods.
[GM]Rpimunky : So to get technical, if you use the geometry to your advantage,
[GM]Rpimunky : but not in a manner that allows you with 100% certainty to defeat the monster,
[GM]Rpimunky : then you're skating just inside the rules.
Anja : Allright
Vlaid : We understand. Can we please carry on with our business?
[GM]Rpimunky : Like I said, I'm just giving all of you a warning to be more careful in the future, ok?
Vlaid : Ok.
Anja : So because Absolute Virtue can kill people from that position, that makes it just inside the rules
[GM]Rpimunky : Yes,
Anja : Alright.
[GM]Rpimunky : if he can still kill you/damage you
[GM]Rpimunky : then you're in the green.
[GM]Rpimunky : By the by, you can quote me on this if you get in trouble at a later point.
[GM]Rpimunky : That's assuming you're still skating on the inside of the rules though.
[GM]Rpimunky : That's it from me.
Anja nods.
Vlaid : How can I prove what you said?
Vlaid : Can you send me a personal message stating the above?
[GM]Rpimunky : It'll be written in your record,
Vlaid: (All right!)
Anja motions joyfully to Rpimunky.
[GM]Rpimunky : and you see that "S" by my name?
Anja : Yeah, was gonna ask what that was for <.<
Vlaid : hehe SGM yes yes
Anja : "Super" GM?
[GM]Rpimunky : That means I'm a "Senior" here, so my word carries weight.
Anja giggles.
Vlaid : ah, he sounds like Muze
[GM]Rpimunky : Are we all good?
Vlaid : Yes
[GM]Rpimunky : Alright then.
Vlaid : But tell me something Rpinmunky
Anja : Ya, we were kinda in the middle of something :3
Anja looks at Vlaid and sighs dejectedly.1
Vlaid : Why in /say does your name say [GM]
Vlaid : and not [SGM] o.O
[GM]Rpimunky : I'm not the programmer, so I really wouldn't know.
Vlaid : XD
[GM]Rpimunky : I'll return you people to your homepoint now.
[GM]Rpimunky : Good-day all
Anja : ack!
Vlaid : Homepoint!?
Vlaid : ....
Anja : uuuuugh
=== Area: Upper Jeuno ===

This was April 6 around 5pm pacific.

[XxSlusherxx]

Good thing I already WoJd all the organs I'll need 8)

[Zarathustra]

That's bullshit don't hate the player hate the game.

[Drksyn]

That's bullshit don't hate the player hate the game.

What?

[Zarathustra]

Throwin people in jail because they found an exploit. GMs should be talking about this to developers not players.

[aurik]

So the workaround is to sac a lv 1 player to AV every few minutes. That way they're "taking damage" but they're using the geometry to shunt the damage to non-critical components of their strategy.

[Maguspk]

So the workaround is to sac a lv 1 player to AV every few minutes. That way they're "taking damage" but they're using the geometry to shunt the damage to non-critical components of their strategy.

Gm's aren't bots. They can make decisions as to whether your intentions are good or not.

[Deme]

Well on Remora then what was the ls, server name, gm name, and date plz? sorry for confusion

[Russta]

Good thing I already WoJd all the organs I'll need 8)

Teehee 8)

[Lordwafik]

Well on Remora then what was the ls, server name, gm name, and date plz? sorry for confusion

Remora - Apathy LS , GM name : Shoukyaku(sp?) , date : forgot.

[Tom Chambers]

How could all those people let him get away with saying 'geometry' over and over? You'd figure one of them woulda came forth with something like "Geometry huh? I thought we were employing some calculus with a few techniques borrowed from Euclid, myself. Unless you mean fucking geography, asshole."

[Viq]

How could all those people let him get away with saying 'geometry' over and over? You'd figure one of them woulda came forth with something like "Geometry huh? I thought we were employing some calculus with a few techniques borrowed from Euclid, myself. Unless you mean fucking geography, asshole."

I'm surprised they aren't using their Dynamis-Tavnazia lingo. OMG the topology... it's so complex

[Deme]

If GMs were smart enough to use that kind of lingo shit would actually get done.

BTW thanks for the info ^^