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  1. #1
    Hydra
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    The hills are alive, please help me out.

    My LS is currently attempting the Hills are Alive KS 99, and we aren't doing to well. By no means are we a dumb or weak linkshell, but for somereason can't get this to work out.

    I searched for the topics already posted, but not much info were in those threads.

    We have 5BLMs, 2 SAM/THF, MNK/SAM, MNK/WAR(no /sam, but using Faith Bag. for faster tp), WHMs, BRD and RDMs. The lowest we can get him is to ~74%.

    We've tried SC/MB groups to keep MP up, blanket Blizzs, mega MBs, and still can't get him to come out.

    Can anyone tell me if him going into the shell is TP or straight DMG based. We just can't keep up with his regen when he is in.

    Any/All help is appreciated.

    thanks

  2. #2

    There's a good guide in the allakhazam monk forums, believe it or not.

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    Are you silencing it? You shouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennon
    Are you silencing it? You shouldn't be.
    Yea we were....so silencing it is a big no no?

  5. #5

    I believe this was the general concensous last time this was asked

    "I've yet to see a viable strat with less than 10 blms"
    15 blms=100% win...good luck selling those stylets >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ligro
    Quote Originally Posted by Brennon
    Are you silencing it? You shouldn't be.
    Yea we were....so silencing it is a big no no?
    I believe silencing it triggers a much faster regen rate.

  7. #7
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    Interesting.

    Thanks for that, keep the info pouring in please^^ we are currently regrouping and brain storming...would love to take him out today.

  8. #8

    the only time i've ever won this BC was with 8(i think) blms, sam + mnk/sam for darkness, 2 plds, and some brds/whms/rdms in the last spots.

    The plds kite, rdms silence/grav/refresh, blms nuke with bliz 2 when the melee get tp to put it in the shell

    once it's in the shell, darkness right away, and blizzaga MB.

    if mp gets low just kite it without damaging it so it doesn't go into his shell and you can rest as long as you want.

    that's pretty much it

  9. #9

    This is how we do it.......

    Have at least 6 blms, and at least 2 sc'ers. Gather TP on the turtle while kiting it around the arena, with the mages in the middle. Once the melee are ready to sc, alert the blms. The blms will then FIRST use a timed blizzard 4 to make it go in its shell, then the melee make Distortion/Darkness and the blms will burst with Blizzaga 3. That should make it come back out of its shell. Works like a charm. Right before the timed nuke though, one blm should use ES Silence on the turtle... it should last for that duration it goes into its shell. Then.. just rinse and repeat when everyone is ready.

    Things I don't recommend during this are using DoT, gathering TP past 100, free nuking, or letting SMNs use random BPs on it. Reason being is that if the turtle gets a hair up its ass from taking a certain amount of damage, it will go in its shell and screw up your flow big time.. and probably regen back 10-20% of its hp before you get it back out of its shell.

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    Hydra
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    Thanks everyone, we are going in for another go at it. Ill let you know how it goes.

    Wish us luck, its for a monks last BB item :D

  11. #11
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    Wow Im in Ligro's Ls... That strat... simply... owns.... Thank you so much!!!

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    Tilo, worked like a charm, thanks everyone for your input.

    No egg, but we have more orbs for later.

    <3 BG community and all your help.

  13. #13

    The keys are that
    1) he doesn't regen while outside his shell
    2) he goes inside his shell based on damage
    3) you can force him to exit his shell by dealing tons of damage.

    Also ES-silence can be used to "stun" his spells.

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    I'm still sticking by my "silence makes him regen faster" thing but if you can blow him back out of his shell so that becomes a non-issue, then awesome.

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    Thanks everyone and Tilo the strat worked great :D

  16. #16

    Question, does MNK with Faith do 0 damage w/o Zerk on it? Double attack from WAR sub doesn't stack with Faith Baghnoks (watched a NIN/WAR use them for 50 mobs sea farming(w/o stones), and didnt double once, so pretty sure it doesnt).

    Since I assume meele damage is bad (did this BC like 2x, never paid attention and it was over a year ago) as long as he isn't hitting for 0s, and assuming zerk isnt going to raise his damage from 5 a hit to 20 (id assume like 10 on a turtle -.-) Subbing DRG would probably be better than WAR, if he don't have a SAM sub here.

    But since it seems you won, doesnt seem it rly matters tho And tbh, Destroyers with WAR sub/Brutal Earring procs just a little less than Faith with Virtue stones, and attacks a bit faster... I would assume around the same TP gain with them, and more damage from crits.

  17. #17

    Double attack stacks with faiths.

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    =( I told lucy to send me a tell if she needed help. Did she ever end up getting her egg?

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    sorry, but if you want a guaranteed win, that's how you do it.

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