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  1. #301
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    Last 20 SH synths:

    20 Venemous Claws = -28,000,000G
    2 HQ = +2,800,000G
    3 Breaks = 0G
    15 NQ = +18,000,000G

    Total = Someone is fucking me in the ass, and I don't like it.

  2. #302
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn
    Last 20 SH synths:

    20 Venemous Claws = -28,000,000G
    2 HQ = +2,800,000G
    3 Breaks = 0G
    15 NQ = +18,000,000G

    Total = Someone is fucking me in the ass, and I don't like it.
    What's the point of even synthing those if HQ is only 200k more than NQ based on the figures you listed.

    HQ being 1.4m based on the 2 totaling 2.8m
    NQ being 1.2m based on the 15 totaling 18m

    I'm hoping that was a typo and each HQ was 2.8m (totaling 5.6m)

  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn
    Last 20 SH synths:

    20 Venemous Claws = -28,000,000G
    2 HQ = +2,800,000G
    3 Breaks = 0G
    15 NQ = +18,000,000G

    Total = Someone is fucking me in the ass, and I don't like it.
    What's the point of even synthing those if HQ is only 200k more than NQ based on the figures you listed.

    HQ being 1.4m based on the 2 totaling 2.8m
    NQ being 1.2m based on the 15 totaling 18m

    I'm hoping that was a typo and each HQ was 2.8m (totaling 5.6m)
    It would have to be, otherwise V claw is 1.4m and HQ is 1.4m.

  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vistani
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn
    Last 20 SH synths:

    20 Venemous Claws = -28,000,000G
    2 HQ = +2,800,000G
    3 Breaks = 0G
    15 NQ = +18,000,000G

    Total = Someone is fucking me in the ass, and I don't like it.
    What's the point of even synthing those if HQ is only 200k more than NQ based on the figures you listed.

    HQ being 1.4m based on the 2 totaling 2.8m
    NQ being 1.2m based on the 15 totaling 18m

    I'm hoping that was a typo and each HQ was 2.8m (totaling 5.6m)
    It would have to be, otherwise V claw is 1.4m and HQ is 1.4m.
    Sorry it was a mistake, the 2HQ = should be 5,600,000G.

    Still I am very annoyed.

  5. #305
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    10% HQ seems very low, so you are definitely having some bad luck but it is a risky synth to take at such small profit levels.

  6. #306

    edit. wrong thread.

  7. #307
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldone
    http://home.comcast.net/~krisbaker/img_0063.png

    Got lucky when synthing my subligar for my abj.
    And thats synths blown up how?...

  8. #308

    Quote Originally Posted by nugotugo
    And thats synths blown up how?...
    Sorry, posted in wrong thread.

  9. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn
    Quote Originally Posted by Vistani
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn
    Last 20 SH synths:

    20 Venemous Claws = -28,000,000G
    2 HQ = +2,800,000G
    3 Breaks = 0G
    15 NQ = +18,000,000G

    Total = Someone is fucking me in the ass, and I don't like it.
    What's the point of even synthing those if HQ is only 200k more than NQ based on the figures you listed.

    HQ being 1.4m based on the 2 totaling 2.8m
    NQ being 1.2m based on the 15 totaling 18m

    I'm hoping that was a typo and each HQ was 2.8m (totaling 5.6m)
    It would have to be, otherwise V claw is 1.4m and HQ is 1.4m.
    Sorry it was a mistake, the 2HQ = should be 5,600,000G.

    Still I am very annoyed.
    I think the reason you didn't make a lot of money off of this is because you can get a Tier2 on Scorp Harness, so if you did 1/4 you'd be making more money man.

  10. #310
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    Yea Sorry i was trying to be as unhelpful as possible because frankly if he hasn't figured that out by himself then I don't think he deserves to make gil from it.

  11. #311
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    Yeah I know it's tier 2, which is why I'm posting here. If i were getting 1/4 then there really isn't anything to be very annoyed about is there?

    Also just synthed 8 more Harnesses, 1 HQ, 2 breaks, 5 NQ.

    I am done with this, no more.

  12. #312
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    Nothing special, but broke another d.ingot =/. Second time breaking my own(7th total). I just hate having to live with the fact knowing that what can make you lose 1m, has the chance to make you 5.5m

  13. #313
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    Investing 28m and if you get a perfect 1/4 HQ, with zero breaks you would have made 4m.....bleh just as horrid as mine. Even more so when you assume a 1/20 break rate =/

  14. #314

    On Asura NQ is -400k and hq is +1.6m, which means you make 400k per 3NQ-1HQ.

    However, the break rate is 10% with guaranteed claw loss, and claws are close to 1.5m, so you can basically cut another 150k off per synth as "break risk", or 600k per 4 synths.

    Net profit: -150k per 4 synths at "average" luck.

    LOL?

    Edit: this is all because a big-name maxed bonecrafter sold his account to a huge scammer. Scammer is dumb & doesn't know shit about crafting, but also rich. He buys all the vclaws at any cost and takes a huge loss on NQ. His luck will catch up with him sooner or later.

  15. #315
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    Sylph has now reached a point where 3 crafter's dominate by being able to rotate through the "popular" synths in each craft. They will do 20 SH, 20 Dusk, 20 Haubergeon, 20 weskit in a batches so that they have sold up when they get back to a synth.

    The thing is they really aren't making much money off it, unless they are still getting a lot of off AH sales on +1 SH (not necessary since 3+ a day sell) they are losing a lot of gil.

  16. #316
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    On Asura NQ is -400k and hq is +1.6m, which means you make 400k per 3NQ-1HQ.

    However, the break rate is 10% with guaranteed claw loss, and claws are close to 1.5m, so you can basically cut another 150k off per synth as "break risk", or 600k per 4 synths.

    Net profit: -150k per 4 synths at "average" luck.

    LOL?
    Yea, Garuda is slightly better with ONLY a 60k loss per 4, crafting has been oh so depressing recently. You can still make gil, but you have to hit it hard and get the fuck out before the copy cats ruin it by undercutting their own HQ's.

    P.S. I like that logic, the "Break Risk", I had always looked at it in longer cycles. But that lets you do short runs, and still take into account the breaks in the long run.

  17. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuuko
    Even more so when you assume a 1/20 break rate =/
    As Aurik said above, the break rate for single sub synths is known to be 10%, not 1/20 = 5% as you said. Just wanted to clarify.

  18. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn
    Last 20 SH synths:

    20 Venemous Claws = -28,000,000G
    2 HQ = +2,800,000G
    3 Breaks = 0G
    15 NQ = +18,000,000G

    Total = Someone is fucking me in the ass, and I don't like it.
    I am 0/30 on phantom earring +1. It is tier 1.

  19. #319

    Stupid question- is there any chance of getting a V. Claw back with a desynthesis of a harness? Is it even worth trying? I'm Clothcraft, not Bonecraft -but a few people have asked me about it, and I'm ignorant.

    (Least it's curable here.)

  20. #320
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    I can't see there being a server where its better to desynth than sell for 200k loss.

    (I doubt its possible, most of bonecraft desynth are NQ - Bone Chip, HQ 1 leather HQ 2 leather HQ 3 something random HQ 4 The item you want or non existent).

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