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  1. #1261
    Cerberus
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    Hades is 101 cannot reach cap naturally.
    Pretty sure it adds a 25% break base or something for not being able to.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

  2. #1262
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    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    do you break 25% of synths that you skill on?

  3. #1263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yimoa View Post
    Hades is 101 cannot reach cap naturally.
    Pretty sure it adds a 25% break base or something for not being able to.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57123

    Quote Originally Posted by Sticky
    Break rates
    For multicraft items, break rates are cumulative with each involved craft. That means if an item has 3 crafts involved, find the break rate for each craft and sum them up.

    Thus, for each craftskill involved:
    If your enhanced skill is at or above the recipe cap, the break rate is ~5%.

  4. #1264

    wrong thread

  5. #1265
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    i just knew there was an increase in breakrate,wasnt sure the exact.
    my mistake for not reading the stupid question sticky.
    I hate math and it hates me,we're an abnormal family.

  6. #1266

    76 NQs in a Sole Sushi session... I think SE saw the stack of +1 sitting at 10 in my satchel and decided not only to jew me out of completing that, but also taking away the next stack that should have gotten some damn good progress if not completion.

  7. #1267
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    Alchemy 100+3 Smithing 51+1 (T2 synth). Did a run of 12, should be easy profit.

    http://i46.tinypic.com/2uiiqo8.jpg

    Proof that random shit is random and everyone has retardedly bad runs now and again.

  8. #1268

    Not even one HQ that sucks

  9. #1269
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitsuj View Post
    Alchemy 100+3 Smithing 51+1 (T2 synth). Did a run of 12, should be easy profit.

    http://i46.tinypic.com/2uiiqo8.jpg

    Proof that random shit is random and everyone has retardedly bad runs now and again.
    Sorry to say, it is not T2 synth with smithing 51+1. Your smithing need to be +31 above its capped (lv30) which is smithing 61. You are actually at T1 so it is pretty normal.

  10. #1270
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    6 breaks for a T1 isn't normal.

  11. #1271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benevolentone View Post
    6 breaks for a T1 isn't normal.
    Hmm, don't think tier has any effect on break rate as long as you are passed the cap levels for that recipe. And it is a 2 crafts synth so it is reasonable. My cursed gloves went 0/37 with 7 breaks, maybe that is not normal.

  12. #1272
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    yeah, irons would be a tier 2 for you with advance support, but steel you need to be at 61 to get tier 2 on those. I tried doing steels the other night on a tier 1 and luckly I made my money back on a stack, but only HQed twice with about 8 breaks.

  13. #1273
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celerin View Post
    yeah, irons would be a tier 2 for you with advance support, but steel you need to be at 61 to get tier 2 on those. I tried doing steels the other night on a tier 1 and luckly I made my money back on a stack, but only HQed twice with about 8 breaks.
    Oops sorry, I meant T1, it was a typo. And really? Breaks are supposed to that common on a T1?

    I've never read anything that you're supposed to break more than 5% on recipes above the cap.

  14. #1274
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitsuj View Post
    Oops sorry, I meant T1, it was a typo. And really? Breaks are supposed to that common on a T1?

    I've never read anything that you're supposed to break more than 5% on recipes above the cap.
    It is more than 5% for double crafts and higher for triple crafts. That is how i feel from eye-balling.

  15. #1275
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    well I normally make regular bullets and irons since I have Tier2 on those. I can get anywhere from 17-22 stacks of bullets out of 36 synths, but steels right now kick my ass being at smithing 55. And multi-craft synths still suck just cause of the extra chance that something might go wrong.

  16. #1276
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitsuj View Post
    Oops sorry, I meant T1, it was a typo. And really? Breaks are supposed to that common on a T1?

    I've never read anything that you're supposed to break more than 5% on recipes above the cap.
    Yea, my break rates support the 5% per craft and subcraft theory. So if it's alchemy main and smithing sub that would be 10% break rate. Though your ss is obviously more than 10% you would expect a higher break rate for that synth.

    2 synths that make this especially obvious are Errant Houppelande and Igqira Weskit where my break rates are 14% and 18% respectively (they each have 2 sub crafts).

  17. #1277
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  18. #1278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celerin View Post
    well I normally make regular bullets and irons since I have Tier2 on those. I can get anywhere from 17-22 stacks of bullets out of 36 synths, but steels right now kick my ass being at smithing 55. And multi-craft synths still suck just cause of the extra chance that something might go wrong.
    Just grind out 3 more levels of smithing! :D 58+adv. and you've got it.

  19. #1279
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    yeah I plan to, and actually I plan on getting the +1 item for smithing since it won't interfere with my set up for alchemy. Just a matter of time really cause I was saving gil to grind that crap out.

  20. #1280
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    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, I normally don't craft because I hate randomness. But I noticed cerb hides drop to 900k from the normal 1-1.1m. Figured what the hell, I'll buy up 16 and synth them in a batch.

    0/16 HQ
    2 breaks which both lost hide

    -6m if I just sell all the NQs.

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