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    Thief Knife

    So I was trying to find an old post on this but couldnt find anything relevant.
    Does thief knife have to be mainhanded for the TH+1 to take effect? All I found was this
    http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... er&start=0

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    I heard that if you put a thiefs knife in your bazaar for 1,337 gil you will get treasure hunter +10.

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    No but superstitions about TH are crazy, like:

    why would you not mainhand it? thf is there actually to do damage? lol

    i kid, relax

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    wait people still use thf/nin on HNM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilicheese
    wait people still use thf/nin on HNM?
    THF CAN'T DO DAMAGE NO MATTER WUT U DO wwww

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilicheese
    wait people still use thf/nin on HNM?
    Maybe he farms spiders as THF/NIN, and wants to know whether he should mainhand or offhand Thief's Knife.

    My advice is to mainhand Mandau, and offhand Thief Knife.

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    Why would it not give TH in offhand is the more correct question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Why would it not give TH in offhand is the more correct question.
    Perhaps for the same reason that Martial Knife doesn't give TP Bonus in the offhand.

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    Yeah the daggers/axes RNG/NIN use give stats in the offhand. If you offhand a heart snatcher you still can get the +crit. I don't see why offhanding Thief's Knife would matter, except if you are paranoid about TH working to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Why would it not give TH in offhand is the more correct question.
    Perhaps for the same reason that Martial Knife doesn't give TP Bonus in the offhand.
    Because treasure hunter is dependant on mainhand weapon? Huh? You're adding a trait. WSes use the weapon, TH doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Why would it not give TH in offhand is the more correct question.
    Perhaps for the same reason that Martial Knife doesn't give TP Bonus in the offhand.
    Weaponskills are performed by the main-hand weapon. I don't get why this is hard to understand.

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    If you off-hand a Heart Snatcher, you will only get the crit bonus on your off-hand swings.

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    I think the obvious solution to this is for divisortheory to go do another 1500 kills with thief knife in offhand using same mobs and compare the results to the first test he did in the linked thread with knife in main.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    Yeah the daggers/axes RNG/NIN use give stats in the offhand. If you offhand a heart snatcher you still can get the +crit. I don't see why offhanding Thief's Knife would matter, except if you are paranoid about TH working to begin with.
    Then RNG should use Jupiter Staff for +15% crit. Oh wait. It doesn't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    Yeah the daggers/axes RNG/NIN use give stats in the offhand. If you offhand a heart snatcher you still can get the +crit. I don't see why offhanding Thief's Knife would matter, except if you are paranoid about TH working to begin with.
    Then RNG should use Jupiter Staff for +15% crit. Oh wait. It doesn't work that way.
    Yeah I was wrong lol... can't dual wield staves anyways. This was about offhand stats being transferred. If I offhand a Shellbuster I still get the CHR boost for example, RNG still gets the +rng attk and +rng acc if they offhand fransisca etc. Asking someone to parse 1500 fights for the sake of TH in offhand equates to a punishment imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blm_Alex
    If you off-hand a Heart Snatcher, you will only get the crit bonus on your off-hand swings.
    As opposed to getting the crit bonus on both hands if you mainhand it? Not being sarcastic, I'm actually curious to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    Asking someone to parse 1500 fights for the sake of TH in offhand equates to a punishment imo.
    They're thieves. They'll take it, and like it, by gum!

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    doesn't matter what paw you hold it in,
    sell it if your not already filthy rich
    sell 10 and upgrade relic knife
    i think relic knife has extra treasure hunter hidden on it
    do you believe in the heart of the cards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek
    Quote Originally Posted by Blm_Alex
    If you off-hand a Heart Snatcher, you will only get the crit bonus on your off-hand swings.
    As opposed to getting the crit bonus on both hands if you mainhand it? Not being sarcastic, I'm actually curious to know.
    Correct, the crit+% only applies to the hand that wields it. As an example, lets say a ninja mainhands senji and offhands fudo - main hand will have a 6% bonus, and the offhand will have the 3% bonus. The bonus is NOT applied globally across both hands as was first thought.

    This is why people are envious of Destroyers, the bonus is applied to all hits.

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    what about weapons that add to job traits?
    last i checked crit bonus isn't a job trait

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