LS bank suspended

[Stellar]

The girl in my Linkshell who holds all of the linkshell's money and items on a level 1 mule was suspended the other day without any reason or anything. Yesterday she logged in and was almost immediatly sent to Mordion and told she was being suspended for RMT until they can further review the account...

Everyone in the LS tried to call GM's and complain and they wouldn't say much...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...atu/gmcall.jpg

SE really needs to work on their methods of determining who is RMT... This is rediculous.

[MisterBob]

Your LS bank isnt the first person to be randomly suspended for supposedly being an RMT. I'm all for banning the shit out of anyone involved in RMT, but catching innocent people in the process is bullshit and has to stop.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

SE really needs to work on their methods of determining who is RMT... This is rediculous.

Ironically this is pretty much one of the exact actions people ask for to kill RMT.

[Rawk]

I don't know how an LS coffer's activity can be more suspicious than the RMTs that stay online 24/7 monopolizing NMs. SE is remarkable.

[Zalius]

Someone swallow their pride and make a giant post on alla because nothing's getting read from here; it's obvious they'll only read cross-server forums.

[Vedder]

If possible... ask GMs what kind of behavior they attributed to being RMT (not like they'd tell you, but meh).

... and if their answer is "she had a fuckton of gil", just /slap them.

Seriously though... if we got some insight into the "mysterious" ways that they hunt for RMT, then perhaps we could provide GMs with some suggestions that might, um... you know, actually work and stuff.

[Charla]

Apparently it takes less work to write

(iterate over players)
{
if (playername.gil > 999,000,000 && playername.highestlevel < 10)
{
playername.zone(mordionthingy);
}}

than it does to actually log in, /zone to U room and look around.
Who'd'a thunk

[Raineer]

If possible... ask GMs what kind of behavior they attributed to being RMT (not like they'd tell you, but meh).

... and if their answer is "she had a fuckton of gil", just /slap them.

Seriously though... if we got some insight into the "mysterious" ways that they hunt for RMT, then perhaps we could provide GMs with some suggestions that might, um... you know, actually work and stuff.

You mean things like "buy 5m of gil from IGE and ban the sender and all it's associated accounts and accounts with matching billing info?"

Yeah stuff like that is way too hard for SE, they need to focus more on making sure people don't alt-tab to browse the web while waiting on their fucking HNM to pop.

[amlaruil]

They probably went,

Level 1 Mule - Check
Lots o' Gil - Check
Several players sending or trading gil to this account - Check

...you think that looks different from IGE's normal gil mules?

[Jeryhn]

They probably went,

Level 1 Mule - Check
Lots o' Gil - Check
Several players sending or trading gil to this account - Check

...you think that looks different from IGE's normal gil mules?

You are correct! Tell him what he's won Bob!

[Kaworu]

Or...

Your LS bank might just be involved with RMT ;D Now wouldn't that be a trip....

[Ohemgee]

How much money was in the bank?

[Ddong]

Your so called LS bank holder was probably selling off gil here and there. Don't be so naive.

[Septimus]

They probably went,

Level 1 Mule - Check
Lots o' Gil - Check
Several players in the same linkshell sending or trading gil to this account - Check

...you think that looks different from IGE's normal gil mules?

Not quite the same.

[Khamsin]

They probably went,

Level 1 Mule - Check
Lots o' Gil - Check
Several players sending or trading gil to this account - Check

...you think that looks different from IGE's normal gil mules?

They obviously didn't do

Sending gil to various random people not on the mules account or in the same linkshell as one another or the mules main character - Unchecked

Plus, I don't know about your LS banks, but in the LSs I've been a part of, gil only flows out of that mule. Items flow in. IGE mules don't sell items, they just pool the gil. The transaction history for an IGE mule would look quite different from that of a LS bank.

[Rawk]

They probably went,

Level 1 Mule - Check
Lots o' Gil - Check
Several players sending or trading gil to this account - Check

...you think that looks different from IGE's normal gil mules?

The only times our coffer has given out gil without some kind of item as reciprocation was when the person shared a linkshell with the coffer. I'm not attacking your theory I just think that for the amount of "power" a GM is given, they should have some kind of formal training better than whatever they're getting now.

Wasn't it here where some poor guy posted that was suspended for being on a wall that the warp taru placed him on?

[Jeryhn]

They probably went,

Level 1 Mule - Check
Lots o' Gil - Check
Several players in the same linkshell sending or trading gil to this account - Check

...you think that looks different from IGE's normal gil mules?

Not quite the same.

What makes you think GMs care about what color the little dot next to your name is?

If that was a defense, a gilseller could simply trade you a linkpearl, and then trade you gil and be in the clear.

[BRP]

Okay, new proccess.

*Get on mule*
*Trade gil/item*
*/tell the person you are trading. HELLO SE, IF YOU CAN SEE THIS, I AM NOT A GOD DAMNED RMTER, I AM THE LS BANK, THIS IS HOW LSES WORK. REMEMBER YOU GAVE US A SITE? YEAH, DO NOT FUCK IT UP*

[Khamsin]

They probably went,

Level 1 Mule - Check
Lots o' Gil - Check
Several players in the same linkshell sending or trading gil to this account - Check

...you think that looks different from IGE's normal gil mules?

Not quite the same.

What makes you think GMs care about what color the little dot next to your name is?

If that was a defense, a gilseller could simply trade you a linkpearl, and then trade you gil and be in the clear.

SE should then have a "Past membership history" on the LS Community site so we can all look at who has been a member of the IGE LS. But if they check LS affiliations, it wouldn't be the affiliation at the time of trade, it'd be the current LS affiliation. So you'd have to keep your IGE pearl and have it when they do their audits. A proper LS bank will have the majority of the gil recipients in the same linkshell or on the same account as (one of) the mule's main characters.

[Stanislav]

Back when this RMT banning thing started
People on my friend list msged me and said a GM was asking about me
I have our LS mule on my accoutn and at the time it had about 600m and i always send out 10-20m to people who asked for it lol
GM left me alone though