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    Apocalypse Nigh Earring choice

    Ok I have beaten this mission and now I am absolutely struggling in my own choice, well i found a topic on KI which was mostly flames and very little informed opinions so i can here for some hopefully intelligent answers.

    My Jobs : BLM 75 RDM 75 BLU59 (next to 75) BRD will be the one after that.

    My issue is this I was always thinking of getting Magnetic earring however the more i think about it the more unsure I am.
    I already have Abyssal which I use in conjunction with my Moldavite I am very close to having Loquacious earring too which can be easily macro swapped at start of spell cast then replaced by Moldy/Abyssal for Damage.
    I am to assume that the Conserve MP activates when worn at end of cast like damage calculation. If this isn't the case then Magnetic would once again be a good choice.

    I don't really want to make my Abyssal obsolete and +2 INT has never hurt now hast it?

    +HMP I have borroka + antivenom and eventually if those ehuvi's decide to drop their body pieces a relaxing earring.

    (please forgive me for jumping around the topic so much but this is what my head is doing thinking about this )

    Now if I could go back in time i would chose a Suppa and Magnetic would undoubtebly be the choice. I would kinda like an earring that is useful on my BLU and perhaps to do with physical attacks.

    Hollow sounds nice (overall +4 acc) but Diabolos has +3 acc, so um would that just be a waste of an earring once again, Diabolos + Brutal would work almost as well and that way i could chose an earring i could use for other situations.

    I hear BLU can help tank wyrms and i would be interested in trying that in the future so Ethereal could also be interesting, but honestly its usefullness in day to day activities seems very very low.

    the other earring is a pice of garbage that isn't even worth mentioning lol.

    well I hope i can get some opinions that will finally help me make up my mind.

    Thanks guys ^^

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    there's already a couple huge thread about this on here

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    Heres my opinion:

    You'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Suppanomimi from Divine might no matter what your jobs are(with the exception the extreme-samurai hardcores, then bushi is ok).

    And you'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Ethereal Earring from Apocalypse Nigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Heres my opinion:

    You'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Suppanomimi from Divine might no matter what your jobs are(with the exception the extreme-samurai hardcores, then bushi is ok).

    And you'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Ethereal Earring from Apocalypse Nigh.
    lol

    anything other than ethereal is idiotic

    klol

    Please, let's not go down this road again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Heres my opinion:

    You'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Suppanomimi from Divine might no matter what your jobs are(with the exception the extreme-samurai hardcores, then bushi is ok).

    And you'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Ethereal Earring from Apocalypse Nigh.

    This screams dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Heres my opinion:

    You'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Suppanomimi from Divine might no matter what your jobs are(with the exception the extreme-samurai hardcores, then bushi is ok).

    And you'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Ethereal Earring from Apocalypse Nigh.

    This screams dumb.
    Can you name a job + situation for me, that would use ANY of the other earrings over other choices already available? BLM MBing with Static, that's all I got.

    No, Rdm Meleeing with Hollow doesnt count.

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    You could, I dunno, get magnetic earring for a 20 MP and Conserve MP+5 and hMP+1...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    You could, I dunno, get magnetic earring for a 20 MP and Conserve MP+5 and hMP+1...
    Conserve MP+5 sucks, there are other earrings for hMP, and better earrings for MP. And the combination of MP and hMP does absolutely nothing for you other than save inventory space.

    Next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Heres my opinion:

    You'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Suppanomimi from Divine might no matter what your jobs are(with the exception the extreme-samurai hardcores, then bushi is ok).

    And you'd be an absolute idiot to take anything other than Ethereal Earring from Apocalypse Nigh.

    This screams dumb.
    Can you name a job + situation for me, that would use ANY of the other earrings over other choices already available? BLM MBing with Static, that's all I got.

    No, Rdm Meleeing with Hollow doesnt count.
    Code:
    Magnetic Earring : 
        * MP +20
        * Conserve MP +5
        * Spell Interruption Rate -8%
        * MP Regeneration While Healing +1
    RDM or WHM main healing or resting, BLM nuking.

    Sorry, but I do not see how 5 attack 5 evasion 3%dmg>MP will benefit my mage jobs, and even the Ethereal earring isnt spectacular for my thief or bst, wow 5 attack/eva? There's already earrings for that. DMG>MP? If I'm on my thief, I dont need MP, if I'm on my BST, and I get hit so hard that my dmg became enough MP to make a difference, there'd be somethign wrong with my BSTiness.

    The only situation I can think of wearing an etherial earring is if I am going rdm/war meat tanking, which I do..... never.

    The earring is great, especially for PLD or DRK, but the Suppa of CoP? Hardly.


    Conserve MP+5 sucks, there are other earrings for hMP, and better earrings for MP. And the combination of MP and hMP does absolutely nothing for you other than save inventory space.
    1) Conserve MP doesnt suck, especially when you have af2 shoes/weskit/this all combined. It sucks alone, doesnt suck when stacked,

    2)You can not argue that there's better earrings for Hmp, when the ethereal earring is equivilent or worse than :
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/2798
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/2754
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/2758

    All the eth earring would do is save me space from an evasion/attack earring, both of which I dont even carry with me.

    The only thing the Eth earring has unique to it is dmg>mp, which not all jobs will benefit from, not my thief, not my blm, not my rdm, and not my BST.

    next?

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    guys i do realise there is another thread about this, my dilemma is not described there.

    I'm going to highlight some important factors for my decision:

    I already have Abyssal
    I am to assume that the Conserve MP activates when worn at end of cast like damage calculation. If this isn't the case then Magnetic would once again be a good choice.
    +HMP I have borroka + antivenom
    If I want MP i will shortly have a Loq. which has more MP than Magnetic

    I would kinda like an earring that is useful on my BLU
    Hollow sounds nice (overall +4 acc) but Diabolos has +3 acc,
    Ethereal's +ATT is pretty much useless for BLU since it doesn't affect spells yet his Damage > MP could be good for Tanking wyrms but i can't see for much else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Code:
    Magnetic Earring : 
        * MP +20
        * Conserve MP +5
        * Spell Interruption Rate -8%
        * MP Regeneration While Healing +1
    RDM or WHM main healing or resting, BLM nuking.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7501
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7020
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7021
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6544
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/2093
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6239
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/8295

    Why is that earring better than any of the above, for any of the situations you just said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nekoshoonen
    guys i do realise there is another thread about this, my dilemma is not described there.

    I'm going to highlight some important factors for my decision:

    I already have Abyssal
    [quote:12fb6]I am to assume that the Conserve MP activates when worn at end of cast like damage calculation. If this isn't the case then Magnetic would once again be a good choice.
    +HMP I have borroka + antivenom
    If I want MP i will shortly have a Loq. which has more MP than Magnetic

    I would kinda like an earring that is useful on my BLU
    Hollow sounds nice (overall +4 acc) but Diabolos has +3 acc,
    Ethereal's +ATT is pretty much useless for BLU since it doesn't affect spells yet his Damage > MP could be good for Tanking wyrms but i can't see for much else.[/quote:12fb6]

    In your case, imo I'd say dont even pick an earring, untill you find yourself in a situation where you say "Oh, I really could have used <earring> right now" I think that's when you chose it.

    How often does your LS let you go blu and tank worms? if never, dont bother.

    If you have PLD lvl'd or thinking of lvling it, I'd lean towards eth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Code:
    Magnetic Earring : 
        * MP +20
        * Conserve MP +5
        * Spell Interruption Rate -8%
        * MP Regeneration While Healing +1
    RDM or WHM main healing or resting, BLM nuking.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7501
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7020
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7021
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6544
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/2093
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6239
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/8295

    Why is that earring better than any of the above, for any of the situations you just said.
    And how do any of those make the Magnetic any less useful?

    I love how you compare them to items from JoL, yeah those are so common arent they?

    Reguardless, 2 ears. MP setup? Why is magnetic bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Reguardless, 2 ears. MP setup? Why is magnetic bad?
    Because Astral + Loq give more mp?

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    5 MP saves people now?

    -5 mp and +5 to a stat that can actually kick in once in a while to save you more than 5 MP >

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    How often does your LS let you go blu and tank worms? if never, dont bother.
    lol never since my BLU is 59 <.<.

    But yeah thanks for the Advice i think i'm gonna keep checking this and other threads for usefulness of each earring, and ask other BLUs how their earrings affect them at least untill my BLU is of level to wear one, i mean Abyssal + Moldy has served me well till now don't see me replacing that for my BLM main untill i see a Novio ~dreams~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    5 MP saves people now?
    5 MP makes Magnetic Earring obsolete in an MP setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    5 MP saves people now?
    5 MP makes Magnetic Earring obsolete in an MP setup.
    No point talking to you since you think 5 MP > conserve MP. Nice priorities you have there.

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    I got it for the +5 conserve mp. If you don't like it, oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nekoshoonen
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    How often does your LS let you go blu and tank worms? if never, dont bother.
    lol never since my BLU is 59 <.<.

    But yeah thanks for the Advice i think i'm gonna keep checking this and other threads for usefulness of each earring, and ask other BLUs how their earrings affect them at least untill my BLU is of level to wear one, i mean Abyssal + Moldy has served me well till now don't see me replacing that for my BLM main untill i see a Novio ~dreams~
    I'm in the situation that you're in then I see my abyssal has served me fit, I dont really care too much bout suppa anymore since I /war and am unimpressed with /nin greatly these days (ON MY THIEF!!!), dont dual weild often on my other jobs enough to give a shit bout a slightly faster swing.

    I kinda am leaning towards a Magnetic myself, I love my af2 boots + weskit setup, and can benefit me when I do rdm/blm situations, I have no intentions/needs for an Ethereal, however, I wont be choosing an earring till the correct situation comes by where it's make or break for me.

    If I ever levelled PLD, DRK, or BRD/WHM, I'd pick ethereal since those jobs take dmg pulling/tanking, but those jobs do not interest me so the earring will stay with Gilgamesh untill then.

    If I had to pick any now, would be magnetic, I solo on my blm and rdm often, mp + conserve mp is always welcome.

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