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  1. #1
    Ridill
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    Besieged and trial weapons.

    WS in besieged count towards trial?

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    Relic Shield
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    Why wouldn't they?

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    Ridill
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    Same reason I'm not sure if they work on dynamis mobs or not.

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    Relic Weapons
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    I usually tend to hear the whole "its gotta be on a mob that gives exp" thing, which would rule out both dynamis and beseiged.

    Kinda a slight tangent to this, I always get into arguments with people about whether or not you need to close the skillchain to recieve full points. I tend to think the game would calculate the amount of points you would recieve instantly after your WS, at the same time its been determined a skillchain has been made, any other thoughts?

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    Ridill
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    It's like 5 for closing a lv3, 3 for opening one.

    Something like that.

    More points for closing seems to be the accepted #


    *****

    Somewhat related note:

    just did 2 300TP 3100+ HP Spirits Within in besieged, and both did 280-290 damage.

    What. The. Fuck.

  6. #6

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    just did 2 300TP 3100+ HP Spirits Within in besieged, and both did 280-290 damage.

    What. The. Fuck.
    Eh I regularly cast AM II for double digit dmg in besieged, be glad you hit triple figures. Anything but physical dmg in besieged is gimp.

  7. #7

    It's the whole Magic Resistance patch working. Spirits Within is affected by it too and all the noobs spamming Bio/Dia/Drain/Aspir to skill up end up increasing the mobs' resistance. That, and the fact their resistance is already naturally high.

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    I'm lucky if I can break 400 dmg Guillo's in Besieged =\

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    Sea Torques
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    you can break latents in dynamis and besieged. i think it more depends on their level rather than actually getting xp off of them. i recall someone breaking a latent strictly from dynamis runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    It's like 5 for closing a lv3, 3 for opening one.

    Something like that.

    More points for closing seems to be the accepted #
    I'm pretty sure it's:
    - 1 for opening, closing a Lv.1 SC or solo WS
    - 1 for opening, 3 for closing a Lv.2
    - 2 for opening, 5 for closing a Lv.3

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    blax n gunz
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    Don't know why you'd want to break latents on besieged mobs where your odds of successfully closing a WS are very low. 30 people hitting the same mob = 1 point almost every time, 2 if you're lucky, 5 if you're very lucky.

    Especially when there are EP colibiri just outside the gate.

  12. #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno
    I'm lucky if I can break 400 dmg Guillo's in Besieged =\
    ...Stop playing DRK before you make us look worse

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    I got about 60 WS points in Besieged and my Spear of Trials didn't break until around 360. I am of the opinion that you can not break trial weapons in besieged.

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    >The Implying
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    If you want to really unlock a trial weapon really fast, try this:
    Get to SM Assault rank. Enter Blitzkrieg. Use the weapon's appropriate AoE WS.

    And if the weapon you're unlocking doesn't have an AoE WS... tough nuts I guess.

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    Sea Torques
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    I hope so since I have been cleaning a weapon in besieged, slow as hell but easier than seeking out a skill up for a ws I don't really need.

    I should be close will post when clean if no one answers.

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    Dice and rum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagel
    I got about 60 WS points in Besieged and my Spear of Trials didn't break until around 360. I am of the opinion that you can not break trial weapons in besieged.
    Same. I did about 50 points in Besieged before my friend told me he had did all 300 points there and it didn't clear. Mine cleared at 350, so I'd have to agree.

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    BEES OH GOD BEES
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno
    I'm lucky if I can break 400 dmg Guillo's in Besieged =\
    ...Stop playing DRK before you make us look worse
    Max? I agree.

  18. #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno
    I'm lucky if I can break 400 dmg Guillo's in Besieged =\
    ...Stop playing DRK before you make us look worse
    Max? I agree.
    TOOL.

    He's a Taru, give him a break. He's not all zomgdeckedoutindaearthenabjurationzanddaHQ2gearz.

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    I'm of the opinion points don't count in Dynamis either.

    Tried myself and so has a friend and we still had out latents :\

  20. #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro
    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno
    I'm lucky if I can break 400 dmg Guillo's in Besieged =\
    ...Stop playing DRK before you make us look worse
    Max? I agree.
    TOOL.

    He's a Taru, give him a break. He's not all zomgdeckedoutindaearthenabjurationzanddaHQ2gearz.
    You think I am? LOL. The only earthen piece I have is feet, which I never use.

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