Ninja's ninja update.

[Robert]

eastern shadow PHs were taking shadows 100% when I had them up, so

[Michaera]

You know something else that seems to have been ninja updated? Firespit, from mobs. It used to seem like the move either had two cases: You would blink it if you had 3 shadows up, blink it entirely, all your shadows would absorb it, or you would take full damage and not lose a single shadow. Someone other than me had to notice this right? >.> But recently, I've been noticing myself losing shadows and taking damage, meaning that it acts more like a gob rush or jet stream now. I think just the other day I had two shadows up, got the "Mich's Copy Image effect wears off" and took wtf85 damage. I do think it was ninja updated.

I really hoped they'd fixed ranged attacks when I read this, but alas. Haven't fought anything RNG or NIN since the patch to test it myself.

Its not really a secret. If you have the shadows to absorb it, you do. If you dont, you take the damage through shadows.

I know, that's what I'm saying, that's how it used to be. It felt broken; I thought it was stupid, that it didn't behave like any other multihit skill that takes shadows. But what I mean is I believe it was ninja updated last Monday or Tuesday such that if you have shadows up, any of them, it'll take them and absorb some of the damage, rather than completely ignoring the 1-2 shadows you may have up and doing full damage. I wish I tanked more of them so I could be sure, but I hate xping there, and all the parties I get recently there have been crap.

[Robert]

not worth making another topic, but is it a new thing that firespit takes your remaining shadows when its used now? (I know it used to take 3-4 if you had full shadows) but it seemed like even with 2 or 1 shadow it would take them, the PT I was in didn't last very long so I can't be sure D:

[Akroma_Seraph]

Just farmed a coffer key in Castle O on my THF, The Ninja YAG definatly missed multiple ranged attacks -while i was in range- with /nin

Guess they fixed it?

[Michaera]

not worth making another topic, but is it a new thing that firespit takes your remaining shadows when its used now? (I know it used to take 3-4 if you had full shadows) but it seemed like even with 2 or 1 shadow it would take them, the PT I was in didn't last very long so I can't be sure D:

Omg man, see my two previous posts. XD srsly.

[Celeras]

Just farmed a coffer key in Castle O on my THF, The Ninja YAG definatly missed multiple ranged attacks -while i was in range- with /nin

Guess they fixed it?

Until you post a screenshot, youre just someone with 20 posts without any evidence to back up their claim.

[½pint]

Just farmed a coffer key in Castle O on my THF, The Ninja YAG definatly missed multiple ranged attacks -while i was in range- with /nin

Guess they fixed it?

Aren't you the guy that used to spam Lower Jeuno with a Casino?

Yes it is 2 and a half years since I was on Seraph, but I still remember you.

[Akroma_Seraph]

[quote=½pint]

Just farmed a coffer key in Castle O on my THF, The Ninja YAG definatly missed multiple ranged attacks -while i was in range- with /nin

Guess they fixed it?

Aren't you the guy that used to spam Lower Jeuno with a Casino?

Yes it is 2 and a half years since I was on Seraph, but I still remember you.[/quote:dc616]

Must be thinking of someone else -_- not me.

[Robert]

not worth making another topic, but is it a new thing that firespit takes your remaining shadows when its used now? (I know it used to take 3-4 if you had full shadows) but it seemed like even with 2 or 1 shadow it would take them, the PT I was in didn't last very long so I can't be sure D:

Omg man, see my two previous posts. XD srsly.

woops /learn2read

[Michaera]

It's glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed it though. Would be a lot nicer on healers out there if they did change it..

But ok. Trying to prove this ranged attack thing with screenshots is a pain, but I just decided to go out and settle it here and now. It wasn't changed for me, and unti someone can prove it to me otherwise I'm going to believe a mob's ranged will still take your shadows, except for the case of fomors and stupid RNG trolls.

I just grabbed whatever gear I had on me and subbed WHM and ran out to the lowest level RNG and NIN mobs that I could think of off the top of my head. First, a test with RNG Gob Ambushers in Valkurm.. (Sorry it's small, imageshack apparently hates me now)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6...4525fe5.th.png

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5...4603gs4.th.png

I got the "Copy Image wears off message" that always happens when you get your last shadow ranged off, and all I did to him to give him TP was ranged attack him once to get his attention, so he couldn't have gob rushed me or anything. All his ranged attacks hit, and he actually landed a melee blow on the shadows. >.> So I went to Oztroja's NINs..

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1...5717az7.th.png

http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/2...5723km4.th.png

Four shadows, 3 taken with ranged and 1 with Hojo: Ichi. :/ I wish it was changed, but at least on these mobs it looks like it wasn't.

[ringthree]

You know something else that seems to have been ninja updated? Firespit, from mobs. It used to seem like the move either had two cases: You would blink it if you had 3 shadows up, blink it entirely, all your shadows would absorb it, or you would take full damage and not lose a single shadow. Someone other than me had to notice this right? >.> But recently, I've been noticing myself losing shadows and taking damage, meaning that it acts more like a gob rush or jet stream now. I think just the other day I had two shadows up, got the "Mich's Copy Image effect wears off" and took wtf85 damage. I do think it was ninja updated.

I really hoped they'd fixed ranged attacks when I read this, but alas. Haven't fought anything RNG or NIN since the patch to test it myself.

Its not really a secret. If you have the shadows to absorb it, you do. If you dont, you take the damage through shadows.

And I never really minded this rng thing, its a fair trade. Ranged attacks always take a shadow, at the trade off that they can never interupt casting. Never bothered me much.

Actually, as with several new mobs I believe there are a couple of levels of attack. Sometimes it will ignore shadows, sometimes it will aborb some shadows, sometimes just 1.

I have noticed this with Puk's AoE knockback.

[Zilong]

You know something else that seems to have been ninja updated? Firespit, from mobs. It used to seem like the move either had two cases: You would blink it if you had 3 shadows up, blink it entirely, all your shadows would absorb it, or you would take full damage and not lose a single shadow. Someone other than me had to notice this right? >.> But recently, I've been noticing myself losing shadows and taking damage, meaning that it acts more like a gob rush or jet stream now. I think just the other day I had two shadows up, got the "Mich's Copy Image effect wears off" and took wtf85 damage. I do think it was ninja updated.

I really hoped they'd fixed ranged attacks when I read this, but alas. Haven't fought anything RNG or NIN since the patch to test it myself.

Its not really a secret. If you have the shadows to absorb it, you do. If you dont, you take the damage through shadows.

And I never really minded this rng thing, its a fair trade. Ranged attacks always take a shadow, at the trade off that they can never interupt casting. Never bothered me much.

Actually, as with several new mobs I believe there are a couple of levels of attack. Sometimes it will ignore shadows, sometimes it will aborb some shadows, sometimes just 1.

I have noticed this with Puk's AoE knockback.

Firespit.

It ignores shadow unless you have 3 or more.

Then it eats 3 shadow.

[ringthree]

You know something else that seems to have been ninja updated? Firespit, from mobs. It used to seem like the move either had two cases: You would blink it if you had 3 shadows up, blink it entirely, all your shadows would absorb it, or you would take full damage and not lose a single shadow. Someone other than me had to notice this right? >.> But recently, I've been noticing myself losing shadows and taking damage, meaning that it acts more like a gob rush or jet stream now. I think just the other day I had two shadows up, got the "Mich's Copy Image effect wears off" and took wtf85 damage. I do think it was ninja updated.

I really hoped they'd fixed ranged attacks when I read this, but alas. Haven't fought anything RNG or NIN since the patch to test it myself.

Its not really a secret. If you have the shadows to absorb it, you do. If you dont, you take the damage through shadows.

And I never really minded this rng thing, its a fair trade. Ranged attacks always take a shadow, at the trade off that they can never interupt casting. Never bothered me much.

Actually, as with several new mobs I believe there are a couple of levels of attack. Sometimes it will ignore shadows, sometimes it will aborb some shadows, sometimes just 1.

I have noticed this with Puk's AoE knockback.

Firespit.

It ignores shadow unless you have 3 or more.

Then it eats 3 shadow.

No, sometimes it ignores shadows completely.

[Michaera]

Holy mother of god, that's what I said. But it seems as since the most recent series of updates, it doesn't act that way any more. It seems to behave more like a Goblin Rush or a Jet Strem. READ PLZ.

[recuperi]

it seems like recently firespit sometimes wipes 1-2 shadows (however many are remaining) and still does damage. it could be that i just havent merited there enough on ninja to notice it before, but i know for sure it does this too.

[Zilong]

Holy mother of god, that's what I said. But it seems as since the most recent series of updates, it doesn't act that way any more. It seems to behave more like a Goblin Rush or a Jet Strem. READ PLZ.

Sorry...I usually just ignore the middle part of quote train. I've merited a decent amount on mamools since the last update, if they did really change it, that would explain the lower firespit number I've been getting lately.

it seems like recently firespit sometimes wipes 1-2 shadows (however many are remaining) and still does damage. it could be that i just havent merited there enough on ninja to notice it before, but i know for sure it does this too.

A good way to test this is to trigger the firespit from those lower level mamools.

[Zeria]

Yeah, this has been a glitch forever really sucks. Only time I have ever had a ranged attack miss was against a fomor type mob.

[Alastaire]

Holy mother of god, that's what I said. But it seems as since the most recent series of updates, it doesn't act that way any more. It seems to behave more like a Goblin Rush or a Jet Strem. READ PLZ.

Since the last patch I've had Firespit eat all 3 of my shadows, and still hit me for nearly 800 damage.

[Medivac]

i wonder if they will fix blink, idk how many times ive been owned by a pudding on mount zhoym because i was counting on blink eating a burst or flare

[nivlakian]

i wonder if they will fix blink, idk how many times ive been owned by a pudding on mount zhoym because i was counting on blink eating a burst or flare

Why would they fix blink? It's been like that for as long as I can remember... totally unreliable.