Nyzul Weapon Discussion

[Elmer the Pointy]

I know, it may turn out SE just feeds us the answer in the future, but I thought the discussion and history of the weapons was kina cool and I like compiling stuff.

Underneath is listed their stats and history in the Final Fantasy series. I made the history based off their JP names since they're more likely to match as translations have changed a lot of equipment names over here. I tried to list the most significant match in terms of power or legendary status.

• Burning Fists - バーニンナックル - Burning Kunckles
  H2H Ｄ+16 Delay+96
  Lv75 MNK
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  FF6 バーニンナックル - Strongest merchant-sold fists. Fire element and sometimes casts Fire.
  
  
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• Inferno Claws - 地獄の爪 - Hell Claws
  H2H Ｄ+15 Delay+49
  Lv75 PUP
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  FF3 - (地獄の爪 only) Strongest claws available. Their element was Dark and they caused Poison effect on enemies.
  Inferno Claws - ???
  
  
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• Swordbreaker - ソードブレイカー - Sword Breaker
  Dagger Ｄ27 Delay 200
  Lv75 THF
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  FF6 - Strongest merchant-sold dagger. It's jagged edge helps evade enemy attacks.
  
  
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• Dancing Dagger - ダンシングダガー - Dancing Dagger
  Dagger Ｄ27 Delay 183
  Lv75 BRD
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  FF4 - Strongest merchant-sold dagger
  FF5 - [Dance] effect, Speed +1, Magic +1
  
  
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• Vorpal Sword - シャープソード - Sharp Sword
  Sword Ｄ39 Delay 224
  Lv75 RDM
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  FF1 - No special properties or high stats. Significance is probably in that the sword was for Red Mages
  
  
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• Wightslayer - ワイトスレイヤー - Wightslayer
  Sword Ｄ41 Delay 236
  Lv75 BLU
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  FF3 (ワイトスレイヤー only) - Weak sword, did high damage to undead. An oddly exclusive sword however, available to Red Mage and the "generic" classes Freelancer/Onion Knight. Strangely, the only weapon with no historical connection to the job it's for. Warrants more research.
  
  
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• Brave Blade - ブレイブブレイド - Brave Blade
  Sword Ｄ44 Delay 264
  Lv75 PLD
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  FF5 - The strongest sword in the game at and attack power of 150, if you refrain from escaping battles.
  
  
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• Double Axe - ダブルハーケン - Double Piton
  Axe Ｄ46 Delay 312
  Lv75 BST
  NOTE: A Piton is a metal climbing tool. I had to look it up...lol
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  FF3 (ダブルハーケン only) - The strongest Axe available in the game. Lightning element
  
  
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• Sturdy Axe - 魔神の斧 - Genie Axe OR Devil Axe
  Great Axe Ｄ87 Delay 504
  Lv75 WAR
  NOTE: Devil matches with Hell Claws or Hades Sainti but the middle Eastern theme matches with Genie, so who knows)
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  This one was tough... as 魔神の斧, it's a legendary weapon from the Dragon Quest series. Best I could find...
  
  
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• Death Sickle - デスシックル - Death Sickle
  Scythe Ｄ90 Delay 528
  Lv75 DRK
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  FF5 (デスシックル only) - Middle of the road scythe, but has additional effect: Death
  
  
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• Radiant Lance - グローランス - Glow Lance
  Polearm Ｄ90 Delay 492
  Lv75 DRG
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  FF6 (グローランス only) - Second strongest lance, raised all stats
  FF7 - Weapon for Cid, nothing special about it
  
  
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• Sasuke Katana - 佐助の刀 - Sasuke Katana
  Katana Ｄ33 Delay 227
  Lv75 NIN
  NOTE: Sasuke is the name of a legendary ninja. No, not Uchiha Sasuke...
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  FF5 - Strongest katana in the game, legendary weapon
  FF6 - Run-of-the-mill katana
  
  
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• Windslicer - 風切りの刃 - Wind-cutting Blade
  Great Katana Ｄ76 Delay 450
  Lv75 SAM
  Also known as Kazekiri
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  FF5 & FF6 - Average katana, casts wind-based spell as additional effect
  
  
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• Werebuster - ウェアバスター - Werebuster
  Club Ｄ29 Delay 267
  Lv75 WHM
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  FF1 & FF2 - Club that does high damage to were-types. Strangely enough, White Mage could not equip it in FF1.
  
  
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• Mage's Staff - 魔道士の杖 - Mage's Staff
  Staff Ｄ55 Delay 402
  Lv75 BLM
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  FF9 (魔道士の杖 only) - Vivi's initial weapon
  
  
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• Scepter Staff - 錫杖 - Tin(Decorated) Wand
  Staff Ｄ55 Delay 402
  Lv75 SMN
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  This was another tough one... couldn't find much besides a few games having a something-something錫杖. Yuna's weapons are referred to generically as 錫杖, so perhaps it's just a typical wand for Summoner use.
  
  
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• Quicksilver - クイックシルバー - Quicksilver
  Marksmanship Ｄ31 Delay 480
  Lv75 COR
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  FF7 - Vincent's starting weapon
  
  
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• Killer Bow - キラーボウ - Killer Bow
  Marksmanship Ｄ36 Delay 288
  Lv75 RNG
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  An average bow among several FF games, most significant being in FF5, where it provides a higher critical hit rate.[/*:m:c8d11]

[Elmer the Pointy]

Theory Compilation

Some credits:

Bagel - Trial weapon idea
Sho - Used his history list as a jumping point to research the weapons
Rentwokay - 15,000 pt Assault weapons

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Random Thoughts

• 18 weapons in total, 1 for each job[/*:m:28666]
• 13 weapon types, since some repeat but are different within their weapon group, e.g.:
  Vorpal Sword - Rapier class
  Wightslayer - Scimitar class
  Brave Blade - Bastard Sword class[/*:m:28666]

Unlock a previously unusable weaponskill

It's often suggested that the names hint at their abilities, i.e. Dancing Dagger gives Dancing Edge. However, the original JP name for Vorpal Sword is Sharp Sword, while the JP for Vorpal Blade matches. Most likely, the name does not dictate the function.

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Weapon Combination
Do Nyzul weapons combine with something else?

• Trial Weapons - A significant amount match Dmg/Delay
  
  Knuckles of Trials
  Dagger of Trials (THF)
  Pick of Trials
  Axe of Trials
  Nodachi of Trials
  Tachi of Trials
  Club of Trials
  Pole of Trials (BLM & SMN)
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• Mighty Weapons - No matches, some match as D+1, Delay[/*:m:28666]
• Runic Weapons - No matches, several types missing[/*:m:28666]
• Martial Weapons - Only Martial Knuckles matches[/*:m:28666]
• JSE weapons from 99 KS battles - Arguably the "ultimate" BCs of the main continent where you fight copies of HNMs. Loose connection, but who knows. Problems include missing jobs/weapon types and PLD gets two different swords.[/*:m:28666]
• 15,000 pt Assault Weapons - Related by expansion and being part of Assault.[/*:m:28666]

[Eratosthenes]

I suspect the Runic Key obtained by the disk-holder upon completing floor 100 may have something to do with any special effects these weapons may have. After all, keys do unlock things.

[Priran]

If these things do actually have an alternative purpose that's implemented already, it's probably unlocked WS points-style.

I give this thread a page before it gets spammed with "LOL ITS CALLED (x) SO IT PORBALLY DOES (something based on x)".

[Gere]

Swordbreaker was also in FF Tactics: advanced, it taught the ability "Steal weapon".

[StaplerGuy]

This one was tough... as 魔神の斧, it's a legendary weapon from the Dragon Quest series. Best I could find...

To be more specific, it had HIGH attack power. Like... third highest in DQ3 I think, behind the sword added in the GB port and the nutso Whip.

To trade off, it was cursed. Don't know what the curse did, as I never wore the axe.

[Tyche]

Was thinking the key item would be needed to access later nyzul assaults. Whether it be totally new missions, or adding more floors.

[Rentwokay]

I suggested that the weapons may combine with the 15,000 Assault Point weapons that can be purchased.

They may not match up statwise, but considering they're a Rare/Ex weapon you need to work for rather than just run to the AH and buy, it'd make sense as an intermediate piece.

And, naturally, I'm basing this on absolutely nothing but my own logic.

[Metah]

Why does no one connect Mage's Staff to Magus Staff? I thought they were the same thing. The FF games that have Magus Staff in them (Although I can only recall FFV off the top of my head-- one of its Legendary 12 weapons) gave increased elemental magic damage.

[Khamsin]

Why does no one connect Mage's Staff to Magus Staff? I thought they were the same thing. The FF games that have Magus Staff in them (Although I can only recall FFV off the top of my head-- one of its Legendary 12 weapons) gave increased elemental magic damage.

Depends on the translation, I guess. I've seen it as Sage's Staff, too.

[Elmer the Pointy]

Why does no one connect Mage's Staff to Magus Staff? I thought they were the same thing. The FF games that have Magus Staff in them (Although I can only recall FFV off the top of my head-- one of its Legendary 12 weapons) gave increased elemental magic damage.

The most recent translation I found had it listed as Wizard Rod and Sage Staff. Direct from JP it would translate as Wizard Rod and Wiseman's Staff (basically Sage). That's the reason why if the JP names didn't match I didn't list it because EN translations can be just plain different (Holy=Pearl?) or they get changed throughout the years.
Throughout the FF series you'll see a lot more consistancy with JP terms because they were never subjected to localization or censorship.

[6souls]

I started doing something like this in my ffxi lj, but got lazy and didn't finish.

info i snatched about S. katana

Sasuke Katana:
Appeared in FF5 as an "Ultimate Weapon" known as Sasuke's Katana

# Sasuke is a legendary ninja's name, Sarutobi Sasuke. Translated as "Ninja Blade" for the PSX version.

# It is also the original name of Shadow's "Hardened" in Final Fantasy VI. This Katana has also made an appearance in Final Fantasy IV Advance, Final Fantasy I, Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles with the name of "Sasuke's Blade."

# Stats of item from FFIV: Advance
Sasuke's Katana
Attack +95
Precision +49
Stats Change: AGI +10, STA +10

# Stats of item from FFV
ATK:99
Spd+1
Increases parry rate

# Stats of item from FFVI
ATK: 121

[yrpaine]

random thought/question: have we seen body/leg pieces drop from nyzul? all the screenshots i've seen are hands/feet and i might have seen a head. maybe key item+ weapon on nm's allows body/leg drops? sry if i'm wrong about not seeing body/leg drops yet.

[Lordwafik]

random thought/question: have we seen body/leg pieces drop from nyzul? all the screenshots i've seen are hands/feet and i might have seen a head. maybe key item+ weapon on nm's allows body/leg drops? sry if i'm wrong about not seeing body/leg drops yet.

The group who got a BST axe posted a body and legs, not sure on legs but the body was definitely there.

[yrpaine]

hmm ya i see they posted both body/legs i guess most likely that was on the way to 100th floor and not after, seems almost every posts in the dorp post is feet pic's though. guess i'm over analyzing again

[Judai]

F20 Feet
F40 Pants
F60 Hands
F80 Body
F100 Head

The reason you see more feet/pants is because most people have moved slowly and tried to farm those lower floors. The is a post of every single part being dropped that I have seen, I believe someone even posted they are 4/5 Denali atm.

[Einherjar]

Perhaps these weapons have a hidden TH effect, such as causing fafnir to drop more(nyzule fafnir), or even when you kill regular NMs in Nysule it increases chances that the ??? item will be the NMs normal drop.

[Tricen]

Or maybe they are as useless as 50% of weapons in the game.

[Sho]

Inferno Claws - 地獄の爪 - Hell Claws
H2H Ｄ+15 Delay+49
Lv75 PUP
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FF3 - (地獄の爪 only) Strongest claws available. Their element was Dark and they caused Poison effect on enemies.
Inferno Claws - ???

Oh wow, glad you looked it up. I knew this would be the one, but for the longest I was slapping myself trying to remember why they should match up as one and the same. Damn "Inferno" word throwing me off. @_@ I simply forgot that Sickles existed in FFV as well, lol.

Mage's Staff, there are many translations for, so I assumed it was the staff that was always used as a "Fire" item (and "Thunder " in FFII). Though I did add the fact that there was a weapon latter on that raised elemental stats/resistance.

[Kaylia]

Was probably said already (read both thread quickly kinda), but weapon hidden effect might activate when you wear the full Nyzul set. I doubt it's the case tho, since it would make the whole set/weapon obsolete if they suck, or would make every other piece of gears useless if they are good.