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    Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Which would you feel would be better off for end game DRKs? Or perhaps do you guys think a mixture of equipment would be far better?

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/AresMask.jpg
    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...resCuirass.jpg
    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...sGauntlets.jpg
    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...sFlanchard.jpg
    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...sSollerets.jpg

    Set Summary (Ares Set)
    Defense +158, HP +10%, MP +10%, STR +22, DEX +6, VIT +19, AGI +3, INT -3, MND -3, Accuracy +29
    Attack +43, Evasion -19, Double Attack +2%, Adds Refresh Effect
    Set: Enhances "Double Attack" Effect

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...madaCelata.jpg
    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...adaHauberk.jpg
    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...daBreeches.jpg
    Armada Mufflers
    (Hands) All Races
    DEF: 23 INT -11 Accuracy +5 Attack +11
    Evasion -5
    Lv. 73 WAR / DRK / BST

    Armada Sollerets
    (Feet) All Races
    DEF: 19 MND -11 Accuracy +4 Attack +6
    Evasion -4
    Lv. 73 WAR / DRK / BST

    Set Summary (Armada Set)
    Defense +165, HP -21, MP -21, STR +11, DEX +11, VIT -11, INT -11, MND -11, Accuracy +38, Attack +49, Evasion -36

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    If I had to choose a "Full set" and be forced to wear it all at once, I'd rather homam than either of them...

    Otherwise this is just sort of a dumb question, why would you wear all 5 pieces of either unless the DA was well over 13%?

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    ace's helm, armadaberk, homam/dusk glove+1, onyx/homam legs, homam feet

    Haste and a lot of acc, eat meat and you're good. Full sets are eh. :/

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Shit is situational.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    Shit is situational.
    There is much truth to this.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    It's probably no greater than 5% double attack, but it will be a while before we find that out eh?

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/AresMask.jpg
    Not bad... Prefer Turban for TP, decent for WS

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...resCuirass.jpg
    SA Steel Cyclones will never look better

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...sGauntlets.jpg
    Shit

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...sFlanchard.jpg
    Better than AFv2 Legs (war)

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...sSollerets.jpg
    Better than Amir feet

    Set Summary (Ares Set)
    Doesn't matter, you'll never wear the set.

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...madaCelata.jpg
    Shit...

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...adaHauberk.jpg
    Best all around body. For everything as long as you're War/Drk/Bst

    http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...daBreeches.jpg
    Not sure what drk has at their disposal here...

    Armada Mufflers
    Decent for TPing on High eva mobs.

    Armada Sollerets
    Outdated. Amir, Ares both beat this crap.

    Set Summary (Armada Set)
    Who wears a whole set honestly?

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    I want to try the Ares set as a fully merited axe/axe war >.>;
    Because, you know, there's a slight chance that the set bonus will give like.. more than 5% double attack!........... maybe.. perhaps...

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    We should discuss more likely - which set is easier to obtain lol.

    Ares Mask is the best head gear for att/acc build, for any HNMs, Turban fails in that kind of situations.
    Ares Body is what was already told - ultimate Steel Cyclone gear.
    Ares Hands - I disagree with crap thing, although it isn't as usefull as others parts. If someone can pull enough acc in gear, with a little help of BRDs, capped GA it's possible to use meat on some HNMs with that hands.
    Ares Cuisses - a bit more str is always welcomed for WSes.
    Ares Sollerets - best feet for att/acc build.

    Armada Celata - I'm using Adaman Celata on my WAR GA setup and I can't complain
    Armada Hauberk - nothing to comment
    Armada Hands - I could use it instead of AF2 hands on WAR, but I'm too lazy to buy Cursed >.>
    Armada Breeches - useless for both WARs and DRKs imo
    Armada Sollerets - this is some kind of mistake, really... feet for lvl 30 melee -_-

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    It really depends on what you're doing and on what job that can even use those sets (apparently you want a war or drk opinion on this? lol)

    I think Ares head, hands and feet would be ungodly useful for any HNM fight that is remotely evasive. In exp, macroing one of the pieces out on a thief mob (and possible nin mob) would have merit, but you can achieve this with O-hat anyway >.>

    Of course, the set bonus with Ares is untested... due to the difficult and time consuming nature of completing a Salvage set, it might be better than expected. The Double Attack proc rate might make it interesting... of course, this coming from a DRK prospective (my delay, even with haste gear, is depressing... as well as usually having to sub nin if I merit ;.

    Most of Adaman/Armada is pretty... clear cut.

    For pure looks? I'd go with Ares.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Ares set for HNMs

    mixed armada with haste set for meripo.

    tough if the set: enhances double attack is more then 10% or so I could see this set maybe become good also for axe/axe WAR in PTs. The Ares set seems to benefit 2 handed weapon wielders more

  12. #12

    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Yea i would agree on the double attack suited more towards dual wield. But no ones got an entire set, so percentage is still unknown lol.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    I would think Double Attack (while actually being useful no matter what you're swinging) would be a more visible boon with a 2h weapon.

    Anything to drop that > 100% time.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    What's a good way to check the double attack % of an item? Don't remember seeing a parser or anything that can count it for you.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackyl
    What's a good way to check the double attack % of an item? Don't remember seeing a parser or anything that can count it for you.
    Pencil and paper.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Quote Originally Posted by Gere
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackyl
    What's a good way to check the double attack % of an item? Don't remember seeing a parser or anything that can count it for you.
    Pencil and paper.
    Good god... how long did it take for someone to figure out brutal earring was 5%?

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Eh, just go get into a fight with something with no native DA trait.

    Have two macros that type into party or echo.

    Normal Swing

    Double Swing

    Do 100 Attack rounds, count up the Double Swings, repeat a few times til you see a specific number pop up.

    Pretty sure thats how they worked out War AF1 feet/Relic Legs/Base Trait.

  18. #18

    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Do you really think that even if Ares has 10% DA it would outparse all haste gear WAR is using in merippo?

    I very highly doubt it.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Quote Originally Posted by Vejitta
    Do you really think that even if Ares has 10% DA it would outparse all haste gear WAR is using in merippo?

    I very highly doubt it.
    A full haste war? probably not. But it would certainly help a DRK or DRG's numbers heavily I'm sure.

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    Re: Any opinions on "Ares Set" vs "Armada Set".

    Do you really think that even if Ares has 10% DA it would outparse all haste gear WAR is using in merippo?
    It's possible. When it came out I tried figuring out exactly how much DA would be needed to do the same damage as the Haste it would be replacing and turns out it wasn't terribly high...it was more than 10%, but nothing beyond the realm of possibility or anything. I don't remember exactly how much it was anymore though, so you'd have to do the numbers again to find out. If DA won in pure damage you'd still have to consider if having a slower utsu timer would be worth it (that might not be an issue under haste+double march, depending on the situation, though)

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