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    Guttler for WAR?

    I've been investigating relic weapons for awhile now and I'm wondering why SE decided to make Guttler (relic axe) BST only. Forgive me if this topic has been beaten to death somewhere in another thread - just point me in the right direction if that is the case and consider your help much appreciated.

    Now I know that Ridill WARs are pretty much disgustingly broken as is but no more so than a Kraken DRK, Gjallarhorn BRD, or an Aegis PLD. In looking at the native axe skill, WAR and BST are identical at 75 - capping at 269. It's true that WAR is able to equip some of the very best gear in the game, however BST is able to equip all of the same gear (correct me if I'm wrong) - Heca, Ridill, Haidate, Dusk, etc - BST is able to use it all. Granted BST has a much lower sword skill than WAR - but I'd think BSTs other abilities would compensate for the differential in sword skill in term of something being imbalanced or broken.

    I'm wondering if someone could shed some intelligent insight as to why SE chose to excluse WARs from using this relic. I already talked to Sundi about this and while he was unaware of the issue, he is going to investigate the matter. Thanks for your input.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    hahahaha

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    hahahaha

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Wars are supposed to be using Gaxe.

    Beastmaster was supposed to be the job using single-handed axes.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin
    I already talked to Sundi about this and while he was unaware of the issue, he is going to investigate the matter.
    This made me smile.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Is this a joke? rofl

    If it's not, then the answer is simple. Triple damage proc on rampage. Game breaking. Reason over, go home.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Granted BST has a much lower sword skill than WAR - but I'd think BSTs other abilities would compensate for the differential in sword skill in term of something being imbalanced or broken.
    I guess BSTs should go get Ridills now?

    Also, cue the wuts and I don't knows and red ferraris.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin
    I already talked to Sundi about this and while he was unaware of the issue, he is going to investigate the matter.
    This made me smile.
    Fuck smiling, I full-out rofl'd.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    I smiled bc its cute that the OP has faith in Sundi. (*'-')

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    triple damage doesn't proc on weaponskills.

    but yea chalk it up to SE being SE.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Someone make a Sundi/Guttler pic now please.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Is this a joke? rofl

    If it's not, then the answer is simple. Triple damage proc on rampage. Game breaking. Reason over, go home.
    Not really game breaking... Kraken DRK would still do massively more damage. It would just make for good epeen rampages in xp. There is really no reason WAR shouldn't get guttler.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin
    I already talked to Sundi about this and while he was unaware of the issue, he is going to investigate the matter.
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30...no/guttler.jpg

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    If it's not, then the answer is simple. Triple damage proc on rampage. Game breaking. Reason over, go home.
    Triple damage doesn't work on WS. Only on normal hits and criticals.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by theo
    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin
    I already talked to Sundi about this and while he was unaware of the issue, he is going to investigate the matter.
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30...no/guttler.jpg

    Ok, that made me lol.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Hahahaha, that was beautiful theo.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Be nice if they made GAxes and two-handers in general worth using before they give WAR another relic, but no, this makes much more sense.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by LD
    Be nice if they made GAxes and two-handers in general worth using before they give WAR another relic, but no, this makes much more sense.
    Is Maxx gonna have to choke a bitch?

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Why can Blue Mages not equip Ridill? (BLUs can equip every other Falchion except for Seiryu's Sword.)

    Why do Red Mages have an amazing selection of Hand-to-Hand weapons, but no Hand-to-Hand skill?

    Why do Puppetmasters have a throwing skill, yet cannot use an Animator and throwing weapon at the same time?

    Why does Square want Dark Knights to use Scythe, yet the man who teaches you how to be a Dark Knight exclusively uses a Great Sword?

    It seems that you have stumbled upon one of the many great mysteries in life.

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    Re: Guttler for WAR?

    Why does Square want Dark Knights to use Scythe, yet the man who teaches you how to be a Dark Knight exclusively uses a Great Sword?
    Maybe he was PLD before he became a DRK, har har har.

    And Sept, your questions are actually harder to understand than why WAR can't wear Guttler. The game SE had in mind wasn't filled with people spamming WSes and using the shit out of Dual Wield and Utsusemi. They probably thought a WAR had to be crazy to use an Axe(unless they were tanking with Axe + Shield, lawl) over a Great Axe or Great Sword. Maybe they didn't do the math when they added the RoZ expansion. Maybe one day, they will start using foresight.

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