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  1. #21
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    Re: Whats better?

    WAR Rampage- Af2 Legs OR Haidate

    eating sushi.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Haidate

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    Re: Whats better?

    Maneater/Juggernaut or Maneater/Joyeuse for merits on WAR, assuming access to full skill merits, torques, pcc, no Ridill anytime soon and a preference for meat?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Flip a coin.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    Flip a coin.
    Coin says keep the extra 2.5M

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    Re: Whats better?

    The coin is wise.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Parse your own fights and see which one works better?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fng
    Parse your own fights and see which one works better?
    That's a fairly silly thing to say in this thread.

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    Re: Whats better?

    You might want to change the thread title, for those who dont lurk as much.

    About BLM:
    I had an INT+3 neckpiece, now i have an Elemental Torque, should i bother still carying the INT piece? if yes, for what kind of stuff would i want to equip it? Ugly pendant is out of the question at this point.

    Edit: Personally i like to get resisted less, even if the DMG is not epeenage (lol epeen DMG on Elvaan BLM >.> )

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    Re: Whats better?

    Keep the INT torque for xp situations or VT and below. Skill for anything that has a decent resist rate (NM's), especially if you don't have elemental merits. I tend to carry af hands and elemental torque on me if theres a chance I will need to go do an event, otherwise int int int for soloing.

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    Re: Whats better?

    On the Haidete/AF2 Legs question:

    I think it doesnt just depend on your food really, since your food SHOULD be complemented by what songs your Bard/Bards are singing. Both leg pieces can be worked into slightly different WS builds yielding different results. Most people just say "haidete" for WS as end all be all but dont realize they could work the AF2 legs and possibly optimize WS dmg with another alteration. Take my WS build for example (fyi: I've found that 40 acc overall is good enough to land all hits on Rampage especially with 8 Axe merits, regardless of Sushi + Minuet or Meat + Madrigal)

    Before getting AF2 legs:

    Main: Maneater
    Sub: Juggy
    Head: Adaman
    Neck: Soil Gorget
    Ear1: Brutal
    Ear2: Minuet
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Hecatomb Mittens
    Ring1: Flame ring
    Ring2: Flame ring
    Back: Amemet +1
    Waist: Potent Belt
    Legs: Byakkos
    Feet: Hecatomb leggings

    Total WS Mods:
    STR = 44
    Att 71 + 22 from STR = 93
    DEX = 23
    Acc 31 + 11.5 from DEX = 42.5

    After obtaining AF2 legs:

    Main: Maneater
    Sub: Juggy
    Head: Optical Hat
    Neck: Soil Gorget
    Ear1: Brutal
    Ear2: Minuet
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Hecatomb Mittens
    Ring1: Flame ring
    Ring2: Flame ring
    Back: Amemet +1
    Waist: Potent belt
    Legs: Warrior's Cuisses
    Feet: Hecatomb leggings

    Total WS Mods:
    STR = 49
    Att 63 + 24.5 from STR = 87.5
    DEX = 8
    Acc 36 + 4 from DEX = 40
    Also, Double Attack +1

    Believe it or not, the second WS build is now my preferred one. The loss of 2.5 acc and 5.5 att did nothing to lower my WS consistency, and the addition of 5 more STR + the Double Attack mod is actually very noticeable on the number of highs I get. Some might say the loss of 15 DEX during WS should significantly lower the crits on my WS, but I havent found that to be the case. In essence, tweak your WS build with what you have available and see which stat increases caters more to your preference during a WS such as Rampage.

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    Re: Whats better?

    i can't use parser so i can't test for myself. af2 legs seem to give me better results, but i don't know if they really do or i'm just imagining things.

    main- maneater
    sub- ridill
    ammo- bomblet
    head- heca
    neck- PCC
    ears- brutal/assault
    body- hauby+1
    hands- alky
    rings- rajas/flame
    back- amemet+1
    waist- potent
    legs- af2
    feet- taru RSE2 (lol)

    food- sole sushi
    songs- minx2 or march/min

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    Re: Whats better?

    Shura Togi vs. Haubergeon for SAM TP build? What about Haubergeon +1?

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    Re: Whats better?

    If your acc isn't capped, I'd say Haubie +1 hands down. 15 acc compared to 10, at a loss of 5 attack. Also, higher str and dex (fstr + crit)

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Shura Togi vs. Haubergeon for SAM TP build? What about Haubergeon +1?
    this one is generally going to be a coin toss. at the end of the day, both will parse very well. i would recommend hauby +1 for tp in thickets, mamook, etc, and shura for mire, etc. subbing warrior, swap in hauby for ws. i tend to tp in shura, then ws in hauby +1. as i am revisiting samurai more these days, and having no regrets over having togi b/c i am leveling mnk, it's not a 'hay i spent all this gil on togi so imma use it,' i am looking to explore this deeper as well.

    between HQ hauby and togi, i'd go with togi. but as i said earlier, it's really a coin toss between the two, as both are excellent tp choices.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Shura Togi vs. Haubergeon for SAM TP build? What about Haubergeon +1?
    Hauby(+1) for everything. Shura Togi is MNK only imo. I have +1 myself so it's a difference of 5Acc 6Dex 6STR vs 5Atk.

    Even NQ Hauby is 2.5Acc 5Dex 5Str vs 7.5Atk.

    idk why ppl use Shura Togi on SAM other then looks. Not a huge diff but Hauby is better imo.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Nin tekko+1 or Bando kote for WS?

    (Some people say bando, some say tekko. Is there someone with a wise answer or are they equal?)

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    Re: Whats better?

    Assault Earring or Minuet Earring for Rampage? Brutal in other slot.

    everyone says assault, but seems like hivemind to me.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by tea
    Assault Earring or Minuet Earring for Rampage? Brutal in other slot.

    everyone says assault, but seems like hivemind to me.
    Merge the two together and get Fowling Earring.

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    Fowling earring's worse than a Minuet earring if you have minuet on :O

    Personally I think the Assault will do better, because the str/dex+1 on minuet is ok, but atk+5 might do better, imo

    I'm not -that- familiar with what stat boosts work best for Rampage, but that's my assumption >:3

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