Treasure Hunter

[Kuya]

Similarly, you could put your dick in a box, and present it to sead mob. Enmity established.

[Francisco II]

Isn't it possible for enmity to decrease to zero over the course of a long fight?

I once took part in a Tiamat Spike Flail wipe... except at the end of the fight, she didn't bother to kill me and a couple of bards and melee, just went unclaimed.

[Max™]

Similarly, you could put your dick in a box, and present it to sead mob. Enmity established.

Taru male Windurstian here, I love this joke.

/salute motion (hands in a circle, cut a hole in the box)
/toss motion (maybe another would be better, just thinking here, put your junk in the box)
/welcome motion (thrust, make her open the box!)

[shirizaan]

Similarly, you could put your dick in a box, and present it to sead mob. Enmity established.

Taru male Windurstian here, I love this joke.

/salute motion (hands in a circle, cut a hole in the box)
/toss motion (maybe another would be better, just thinking here, put your junk in the box)
/welcome motion (thrust, make her open the box!)

Oh my. O.o

You have thought entirely too much about that.

[Max™]

I made a macro out of it when I saw the joke first time, was pretty funny.

[eva00r]

the thf doesnt even have to strike any mobs.


Step 1) type /heal.

Congratulations, you now just stuck your TH on all the mobs.

I don't think this is working /heal is just the same thing with sight aggro isn't it ? sight/sound aggro won't put you into enmity list ffs, however mob still attacks you. it's just like mammet cop mission that we do sight aggro kiting.

[Slott]

No, they aren't the same. /heal actually generates hate.

[Ashira]

No, they aren't the same. /heal actually generates hate.

Truth. In our tests, when Kaeko and I were at equal hate, I'd /heal and mob would turn to me.

It's another test to consider some time perhaps; how much hate is generated per seconds spent in /heal.

[Erkaan]

So Wafik, TH on all mobs by healing next to the wave. So, say I've got my TH3 thf mule out there, just pick him up after each wave is dead and /heal him up by the next group, and so forth? Also, since it is only TH3 atm, if I have hate on all the mobs from /healing, the only way my TH gets overwritten is if a TH4 thf hits em or /heals next to me? If your totally serious, then damn, my alt's coming to every dynamis, hahaha.

[Koga]

Isn't it each time you regen HP/MP from /heal? >_>
Because it acts like curing yourself thus increasing your hate.

[nekoshoonen]

/no
if you have ever been a mage and got smacked by the incoming mob being pulled cause you were healing and ion front of tank/before he voked you'd know... 1 millisecoind of /heal = real emnity increase.

[Ashira]

No, they aren't the same. /heal actually generates hate.

Truth. In our tests, when Kaeko and I were at equal hate, I'd /heal and mob would turn to me.

It's another test to consider some time perhaps; how much hate is generated per seconds spent in /heal.

Sorry, I'm going to clarify this:

Just clicking /heal generated hate towards me, which could count as an action obviously and thus put me at that +1 to Kaeko.

However, as has been mentioned, if a puller brings a mob to camp by way of the mages that they only got aggro on, it will hit the mages; so there's some other sort of enmity incurred as well... so it's definitely something to put to tests.

Can we cross reference this into the enmity thread too? lol

[Saraphym]

I always thought more thfs in things like dynamis gave TH a greater effect, but this is saying as long as a thf with highest TH has some hate on mobs, only 1 thf is really necessary to improve drop rates?(well for TH purposes anyway)

[klvino]

I always thought more thfs in things like dynamis gave TH a greater effect, but this is saying as long as a thf with highest TH has some hate on mobs, only 1 thf is really necessary to improve drop rates?(well for TH purposes anyway)

Yes, a single THF is all you need in Dynamis, as long as that THF is capable of getting on the hate list of all the mobs.

[jerkbox]

what i'd like to know is if you can macro in TH gear AFTER you generate hate. they say TH is applied when the thf first generates hate - can a higher TH be applied from the same THF if they macro in AF2 hands and TK?

[Massimo]

what i'd like to know is if you can macro in TH gear AFTER you generate hate. they say TH is applied when the thf first generates hate - can a higher TH be applied from the same THF if they macro in AF2 hands and TK?

You can swap it in at any time.

[Bobz]

When the question about TH was asked, it was asked when the Thf was in the party, from what i remember it did not say anything about alliances. From my experiances its the pt that kills a mob that gets th rules applied if they have /thf or th4. I'm pretty sure if a thf aggros a mob, or /heals and gets hate, then another unrealted party kills it that the TH gets added to the unrealted pt's treasure. But i could be off, it could be odd like that.

[Maxxthepenguin]

The epic journey of figuring out th is over guys

let's work on figuring out additional effects now

[vagus]

Went to dynamis as thf/blm today. I was casting "Sleepga" as much as I could. Was Bastok, got over 350+ coins. Biggest benefit of going /blm and generating hate via Sleepga is that only 1 thief is needed now. Other jobs can be used. Lol. I have to admit it was quite fun as /blm. I had 265 ish MP and got ballad, and MP was never an issue. /brd may be more effective, or possibly /blu since they have a SS type ability and some form of AOE.

[Lordwafik]

Went to dynamis as thf/blm today. I was casting "Sleepga" as much as I could. Was Bastok, got over 350+ coins. Biggest benefit of going /blm and generating hate via Sleepga is that only 1 thief is needed now. Other jobs can be used. Lol. I have to admit it was quite fun as /blm. I had 265 ish MP and got ballad, and MP was never an issue. /brd may be more effective, or possibly /blu since they have a SS type ability and some form of AOE.

Blu would be effective since they have very cheap AOE (Battle Dance for one). I think brd would be most efficient if you do thf/brd and use fulltime evasion gear, horde and prey you don't get molested.