Global Warming is teh TRUTH

[GRT]

is it?

trying to find some information sources credible enough to counteract mainstream global warming beliefs, or at least why it isn't necessarily man made

can someone point me the right way??

[Alleya]

Uh, how's about 2000+ scientists from all over the world?

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Edit: What the guy below me said is what I was getting at, but with more subtlety.

[SephYuyX]

Can someone point me the right way??

Cant because it's not true, so there are no facts to point you to.

[Septimus]

Uh, how's about 2000+ scientists from all over the world?

http://www.ipcc.ch/

They are all in cahoots with the Weather Channel to drive up ratings.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Uh, how's about 2000+ scientists from all over the world?

http://www.ipcc.ch/

They are all in cahoots with the Weather Channel to drive up ratings.

Not to mention lower our energy consumption.

Those assholes

[Fhqwghads]

I just set a stack of tires on fire and punched holes in a bunch of old-school aerosol cans, just to piss off the scientists. I am so dastardly!

[Parshias]

I just set a stack of tires on fire and punched holes in a bunch of old-school aerosol cans, just to piss off the scientists. I am so dastardly!

Did you twirl your mustache afterwards?

[GRT]

well I know about IPCC, thank you... but as a journalism student on an assignment I need to at least attempt to be objective and look at both sides of the argument, and as man-made global warming is such an overwhelming mainstream belief, it's really hard to google the counter arguments that seem as well formed and credible as the IPCC reports

I mean everybody I talk to always say stuff like "despite scientists who argue against global warming," and the funny thing is nobody actually knows what those counter arguments are

I'm supposed to interview an expert on the subject in 2 days, and I think she's for global warming like everybody else, and I need to prepare at least one or two tough questions, and I really need help!

[Nuketwig]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scienti...global_warming

Didn't investigate myself, but seems like the references at the bottom would be a decent starting point?

[evilbau]

is it?

trying to find some information sources credible enough to counteract mainstream global warming beliefs, or at least why it isn't necessarily man made

can someone point me the right way??

I read State of Fear a few years ago and back then I checked some of Crichton's sources that he cites at the back of the book. I was trying to find a list online but you could check that wiki page or maybe he includes some in his speeches here: http://www.michaelcrichton.com/books-stateoffear.html

If you get a hold of the book, his cites are are good place to start.

[Khamsin]

Could just have a debate here in this thread, then you could cite that. We're all scientists here, right?

[Maxxthepenguin]

Could just have a debate here in this thread, then you could cite that. We're all scientists here, right?

That's why I love the internet

Everyone knows everything

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Here is a good PowerPoint on it done by the National Center for Policy Analysis.

http://www.ncpa.org/globalwarming/Globa ... Primer.pdf

Edit: Heres a good documentary. I can't tell who made it though.

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/ha4PoKY/ ... ng-Swindle

[GRT]

Thanks a bunch for getting me started guys

[Enciel]

Post moar when I get home but some of the counter arguments deals with the misrepresentation of the recent "temperature spike" and how most people envision that recent rise when arguing about global warming when the scale of the rise isn't the same in recent years as it was in the rest of the graph (ie tree ring vs thermostat readings).

Of the other theories I can only readily recall the theory about solar irradiance being a possible cause of the recent heatup due to the radiation causing more cloud nuclei or something. Again, I'll post links when I get home.

[Alleya]

I mean everybody I talk to always say stuff like "despite scientists who argue against global warming," and the funny thing is nobody actually knows what those counter arguments are

Because they're disregarded, considering those scientists have their checks signed by Exxon mobile?

Maybe you should talk to your prof about the importance of not reporting lies and distortion as a mean of objectivity.

[Fhqwghads]

I just set a stack of tires on fire and punched holes in a bunch of old-school aerosol cans, just to piss off the scientists. I am so dastardly!

Did you twirl your mustache afterwards?

Indeed.

And now to run my gasoline lawnmower, despite the fact the grass needs no cutting! Perhaps I'll also ignite the charcoal in my barbecue for good measure.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

I mean everybody I talk to always say stuff like "despite scientists who argue against global warming," and the funny thing is nobody actually knows what those counter arguments are

Because they're disregarded, considering those scientists have their checks signed by Exxon mobile?

Maybe you should talk to your prof about the importance of not reporting lies and distortion as a mean of objectivity.

What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?

[Shuemue]

Move over Lois Lane.

[evilbau]

I mean everybody I talk to always say stuff like "despite scientists who argue against global warming," and the funny thing is nobody actually knows what those counter arguments are

Because they're disregarded, considering those scientists have their checks signed by Exxon mobile?

Maybe you should talk to your prof about the importance of not reporting lies and distortion as a mean of objectivity.

no offense but there is a lot of material which supports the argument that global warming is a problem that is immeasurable and/or unknowable. Our knowledge of our atmosphere as a system is pretty pathetic. Our environment is an incredibly complex system and we have no control group to compare it to. It is similar to economics in that there is more theory than science and it 'depends a lot on the user.'

I would say it is irresponsible to not know the counter arguments since while the vast majority agree that there is a problem, the data is far from conclusive. I personally agree there is a problem, too, but there is no need to be ignorant of opposing viewpoints.