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  1. #1
    Nidhogg
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    Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    I know this BC can be Solo and Trio, however I'm curious as to how 2 people or one person would gain access to the bc? I was under the impression one, had to go through the furnaces because you cant trade the goblin the flower or gamble with him.

    Is there another way? Just curious, thanks in advance.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    With 1 person its not possible because you have to hit three different switches. The only way it would be possible is if you can trade a Snow Lily to get there, but I believe any form of instant warp loses the KI.

    On the other hand it can be done with 2 people, but I believe its tedious. First you need to set the gates so that you can access the switches. This obviously puts one person on the other side of gate and one person at a switch. You can have that person that's behind the gate escape out, then run back in Oldton back to Newton and get to the other switch on a ledge. Now that you have the two people on the ledges for those two switches you need to have the person on the right switch have powder boots ready. Hit the boots, both people hit the switches the person on the right runs off the ledge, runs down hits the 3rd swiitch, then both run across.

    This gets you into the main area.

    Now you invis up and run normally down the path until you get to the next gates. There is a furnace hatch right before the furnace so have someone run down sleepga the group of moblins, and use a firesand. Firesand immediately deaggros all monsters so invis up quick and take off running. Now all you have to do is follow the path to the ENM.

    *Edit*

    I made a similar instruction in a different post and as I said there, if it's confusing or you need a map w/ detail I can do something in paint to try and make it clearer if need be. Hopefully this helps.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Yeah I realize it can be done just a pain. I've heard of people soloing it and I just simply assumed they were someone who leached off another group that opened the switches.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    I know 100% you can't trade the goblin money, so if it can be done without doing switches it's snow lily.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Other than RDM, which jobs can solo this?

    Sorry if this is off topic.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    would be interested in a solo access walkthrough as well- been wanting to try this solo for a while- but access to the area was just something I haven't figured out without finding a group that already goes and tagging along through the gates- and if I'm gonna do that, its hard not to just invite 3 friends and make mincemeat of Bugbear.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Confirmation that 2 person method requires a Flee effect. I tried it once on RDM (w/ Cuisses) and moved flawlessly but it's not quite enough time to hit 3rd switch and cross the bridge in time. Sprinter Shoes might work though, could be worth testing.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    can get a warp anytime you like to the BC area solo if you have "Return to the depths"(bowyer ring) quest open and done as far as the BC. Just trade Tarnotick(not the same gob as the 1 you trade the lilly) an Ariman tear and he will warp you. theres no limit to the amount of warps you can do either and tears are alot cheaper than lilly.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arouz
    can get a warp anytime you like to the BC area solo if you have "Return to the depths"(bowyer ring) quest open and done as far as the BC. Just trade Tarnotick(not the same gob as the 1 you trade the lilly) an Ariman tear and he will warp you. theres no limit to the amount of warps you can do either and tears are alot cheaper than lilly.
    Beautiful info- can't wait to give it a go this evening.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko
    Other than RDM, which jobs can solo this?

    Sorry if this is off topic.
    Maybe SMN, but you would be cutting close.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Any estimate on how much HP it has?

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arouz
    can get a warp anytime you like to the BC area solo if you have "Return to the depths"(bowyer ring) quest open and done as far as the BC. Just trade Tarnotick(not the same gob as the 1 you trade the lilly) an Ariman tear and he will warp you. theres no limit to the amount of warps you can do either and tears are alot cheaper than lilly.
    This really works? It doesn't count like any of the other warps where you lose the lever if you warp? My group just did the ENM yesterday, so I can't check for a few days. I really want to know for sure this works before I make my friends do a bunch of quests.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    No, it doesn't work. That gobbo will try to take your ENM75 key item away, just like the other one.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loren
    Confirmation that 2 person method requires a Flee effect. I tried it once on RDM (w/ Cuisses) and moved flawlessly but it's not quite enough time to hit 3rd switch and cross the bridge in time. Sprinter Shoes might work though, could be worth testing.
    I do this regularly every week with 2, and i'm the RDM with with w.legs, that hits 2 switches. My partner is a BLM, he only hits one switch, scoots across the bridge. I fall down every time, then die, and have him tractor me up ^^ A little bit of a pain but worth it for Cloud Evoker's and gil At this point tho I just use a 2nd toon to hit the third switch. You can use Flee and make it if you use Powder Boots/Hermes/SJ Flee.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    So I'd say the question still remains- when people solo this ENM, are they simply harassing friends into helping them with switches, dual boxing, or what?

    Because I know if I got asked "hey, come down to movapolis and hit a switch for me" instead of "hey wanna duo an ENM for some gil?" I'd be pissed.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko
    Other than RDM, which jobs can solo this?

    Sorry if this is off topic.
    I could be wrong but I'm almost positive I've heard about BLM/RDMs soloing it with the use of a Vile Elixer + manafont and nuking when counterstance/2hr/whatever ability it is that makes it take double damage. I haven't tried it myself but I am eager to see if this is soloable by a BLM.

    Maybe a new project for you Kaeko? :D

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magos
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko
    Other than RDM, which jobs can solo this?

    Sorry if this is off topic.
    I could be wrong but I'm almost positive I've heard about BLM/RDMs soloing it with the use of a Vile Elixer + manafont and nuking when counterstance/2hr/whatever ability it is that makes it take double damage. I haven't tried it myself but I am eager to see if this is soloable by a BLM.

    Maybe a new project for you Kaeko? :D
    Actually trying to write something on various job solos. I didn't think a BLM could do this simply b/c of MP limitations. I may try this if it sounds remotely possible though, thanks!

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko
    Quote Originally Posted by Magos
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko
    Other than RDM, which jobs can solo this?

    Sorry if this is off topic.
    I could be wrong but I'm almost positive I've heard about BLM/RDMs soloing it with the use of a Vile Elixer + manafont and nuking when counterstance/2hr/whatever ability it is that makes it take double damage. I haven't tried it myself but I am eager to see if this is soloable by a BLM.

    Maybe a new project for you Kaeko? :D
    Actually trying to write something on various job solos. I didn't think a BLM could do this simply b/c of MP limitations. I may try this if it sounds remotely possible though, thanks!
    i'm 95% sure aveesta did it, though it may well have been on rdm instead of blm.

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko
    Quote Originally Posted by Magos
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko
    Other than RDM, which jobs can solo this?

    Sorry if this is off topic.
    I could be wrong but I'm almost positive I've heard about BLM/RDMs soloing it with the use of a Vile Elixer + manafont and nuking when counterstance/2hr/whatever ability it is that makes it take double damage. I haven't tried it myself but I am eager to see if this is soloable by a BLM.

    Maybe a new project for you Kaeko? :D
    Actually trying to write something on various job solos. I didn't think a BLM could do this simply b/c of MP limitations. I may try this if it sounds remotely possible though, thanks!
    i'm 95% sure aveesta did it, though it may well have been on rdm instead of blm.
    Yea i remember watching Avesta's video for this. He goes RDM/NIN and beats it in about 19 minutes. Pretty much a Gravity/Bind DoT strat with tier3 nukes thrown in before converting. I think he has a WHM helper just standing by in case he messes up in it too (and probably how he got through the trigger part).

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    Re: Quick question for Bionic Bug.

    BLM solo would rely on luck I think - he isn't guaranteed to counter stance at all is he?

    If he didn't you'd be pretty screwed - he builds sleep/grav resistance relatively fast..

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