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  1. #41
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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Quote Originally Posted by Daimen-G
    This is one of the most interesting updates yet, but wasn't it always said that Bastok won this battle because of its awesome guns? And yet I see here that the primary troop of gunners was wiped out almost instantly...
    Sand'Orian propaganda.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    The primary troop of gunners were taken down, but the elite gunners (Gold Muskateers, hence 1st Gold Muskateers being so hax in campaign, and gold muskateer's bolt/bullet being so noice) survived easily -- they were just tired from fighting the reserve unit, so they couldn't give chase.

    I like how they pushed the iron muskateers over to the west to fight the hillside reserve troops -- those saucy female rdm-rngs always get their way.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Where can i find info on how the Four Legions are divided in the republican army? And who's in charge of what? I've been interested in knowing that for a while.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordshin
    maybe its a hint that we might get the crag zones.. because afaik you need a Telepoint to teleport
    I'd rather have teleports to Vunkrel, Fort Karugo-Narugo and Grauberg.

    I think SE might've thought that including Crag zones, the current teleport spells might lead to confusion of players thinking they'll teleport to those Crags in the past. They just threw in some random story shit about the zones that explains why they're not accessible (like huge battles being fought there).

    You also gotta think, the Beastmen are specifically gathering crystals during the Crystal War. Remember what lies hidden beneath each Crag? If anything, I think one of Jeuno's top priorities would be to fortify these areas to prevent entrance to as many people or beastmen as possible.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya
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    This proves Bastok is not to be trusted, rly.

    Caphieux: OK GUYS CEASEFIRE, GET YER DEAD AND LETS GO

    Friese: lol PWNED!!1

    Reserves: SHIT SHE SHOT HIM WTF
    He got what he deserved. I mean...first those Sandorians sold the mines for lots of money, and a bit later they come with their freaking army and want it back?
    THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU CONTRACT OUT OF AN AGREEMENT IN BASTOK!!!!1
    There is no honour in politics, I like to think one would show some form of spine during a battle, though. Bastok took the coward's way out.
    Moar liek Sand'Oria needs better tacticians. They fell for every trick in the book!
    Low int elves forgot their INT gear this day im afraid.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Where can i find info on how the Four Legions are divided in the republican army? And who's in charge of what? I've been interested in knowing that for a while.
    The best I can say is that on the Bastok page of the otherwiki there's a breakdown of the chain of command of the legions but no names are named. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...men/emot-v.gif

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
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    Would be kind of hard to condense the awesomeness of Elmer into a 50x50 space huh...

    Maybe just a big E, and then we retire the letter E and use 3's instead to replace it?
    Simple, let's delete the letter "e" entirely. Since when were letters like "e" even needed? We never even use the letter.
    icwutudidthar

    I propose a somehow smoosh a Taru PUP into 50x50 >.> is it possible??? >.>

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    The lesson to be learned here: Pre 2-hand patch, WARs should not be using Polearms.

    The note about the san'dorian civil war sounded interesting to me. Is there a thread about that already or someone who can clarify?

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Quote Originally Posted by Daimen-G
    Where can i find info on how the Four Legions are divided in the republican army? And who's in charge of what? I've been interested in knowing that for a while.
    The best I can say is that on the Bastok page of the otherwiki there's a breakdown of the chain of command of the legions but no names are named. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...men/emot-v.gif
    Or instead you can go to the source of the Wiki That Shall Not Be Named's article here.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    :elmer:
    nom nom nom

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Woot, thanks Elmer! :D
    It was interesting learning that Gigas and Goblin mercs participated.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    :elmer: yello!

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    If they included the crags it would need three unbroken crystals! Imagine a crag with three crystals... impossible!

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Wait, don't you actually meet Schultz when you do the SCH quest?

    Wouldn't that make him really, really, really old? Like hundreds of years old by the time the Crystal War broke out? Unless the Schultz you meet is a descendant or something.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Just when I think the world is dark and gray, Elmer comes to save us with his impeccable skills.

    Bravo, good :elmer:, bravo.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    This was the endgame he had planned for from the beginning.
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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Quote Originally Posted by Asrun
    Wait, don't you actually meet Schultz when you do the SCH quest?

    Wouldn't that make him really, really, really old? Like hundreds of years old by the time the Crystal War broke out? Unless the Schultz you meet is a descendant or something.
    He's a descendant. The original Schultz died in the year 701.

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    As for the absence of Konschtat in WotG... I think they just didn't want to deal with the crags for whatever reason. All three crag zones were replaced with new areas.
    My guess is that SE didn't want to deal with the Holla/Dem/Mea teleport spells. If they included any of the crags zones (or any telepoint for that matter) then they would have had to tweak the code for how the spells behave depending on if you were in the past or not. I doubt SE felt like modifying the rules for these spells so instead they chose to simply exclude the crag zones so it would be a non-issue. Also, by limiting mobility options (no teleport spells, no chocbos) players are forced to spend more time traveling in the WotG zones, which I'm sure makes SE happy.

    If they included the crags it would need three unbroken crystals! Imagine a crag with three crystals... impossible!
    Hehe BRP, this brings backs memories of pre-CoP times

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    as always very nice elmer /clap

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    Re: The Second Battle of Konschtat

    Not that it adds anything, but I can't believe noone put in a "BOOM! HEADSHOT!" yet.