Xenora - Ifrit / Fenrir

[BerenTebogo]

As much as I hate to be the one who has to do this, feel it's somewhat my responsibility since I'm half the reason he was even in LMXVII in the first place.

This afternoon, after attempting to skip LS event to level his BST Galka mule, as had been a trend recently, Xenora (Taru F) transferred to Fenrir from Ifrit without warning to the LS (the server both of us are originally from.)

Left with A. Body, Baha staff, Homam pieces (don't remember which) and a pair of Gaiters, which are considered LS property as we alternate selling every other pair that drops, and running off with gaiters is about -10 mil to the LS bank.

I honestly don't know what more to say, we were supposed to be great friends, and I felt he was more trustworthy than this, and honestly biggest effect this has isn't 'OMG damaging a mean LS' like he probably thinks, but in damaging our low # salvage group, our nyzul group, and my reputation on Ifrit server as he came with me from Fenrir.

All the LS on Fenrir know him, it's not like he's some stranger, there's not a danger of applying to other HNM LS as now that he has dalm / staff / gaiters I anticipate he will just level his mule to 75 and play dual-BST full time, but I felt it appropriate to just give people a heads up. Xen has a way of playing the victim, and honestly, the LS was more than fair with him.

Been in LS since august, got abody / gaiters / staff before members who have been around much longer than us.

[Mafai]

As much as I hate to be the one who has to do this, feel it's somewhat my responsibility since I'm half the reason he was even in LMXVII in the first place.

This afternoon, after attempting to skip LS event to level his BST Galka mule, as had been a trend recently, Xenora (Taru F) transferred to Fenrir from Ifrit without warning to the LS (the server both of us are originally from.)

Left with A. Body, Baha staff, Homam pieces (don't remember which) and a pair of Gaiters, which are considered LS property as we alternate selling every other pair that drops, and running off with gaiters is about -10 mil to the LS bank.

I honestly don't know what more to say, we were supposed to be great friends, and I felt he was more trustworthy than this, and honestly biggest effect this has isn't 'OMG damaging a mean LS' like he probably thinks, but in damaging our low # salvage group, our nyzul group, and my reputation on Ifrit server as he came with me from Fenrir.

All the LS on Fenrir know him, it's not like he's some stranger, there's not a danger of applying to other HNM LS as now that he has dalm / staff / gaiters I anticipate he will just level his mule to 75 and play dual-BST full time, but I felt it appropriate to just give people a heads up. Xen has a way of playing the victim, and honestly, the LS was more than fair with him.

Been in LS since august, got abody / gaiters / staff before members who have been around much longer than us.

Awesome, thanks for the ninja migrate and making off with a item that was clearly defined as linkshell property. I went out of my way to defend you in some cases as a member of my shell, and you pull this.

[Cail]

just to buffer what they said, was awarded all this rare shit and then to just bound after 4 months is beyond messed up. I'm really pissed off cuz i considered xen a good friend. Not as much as sath, but yea...

[mrinv]

At least you guys didn't give him a valor cape.

[Sefier]

wow thats pretty scary =( sorry sath guess sometimes cant put all your trust into people; and you guys know each other since forever =(

[Cocanut]

Look, you want to know why Xenora transferred? I'll tell you the truth.

Its because of you,Sath. Yes, it's because of you.

I've kept in contact with Xen SINCED he moved to Ifrit, I was very upset when he did so. And when I found out he was going along with you, I knew it would eventually become a problem.

Sath, you have anger issues. Admit it , you do. It's the reason you were a terrible leader of CDC. No one had respect for you, and you even mentioned to members that your were going to break the LS after you recieved what you desired.

Xen was NOTHING but an amazing friend to you. You made him feel like shit, you run your mouth and don't know when to end. He said there were problems in the LS before this, but didn't go into full details. What set him off and caused this situation though, was you running your mouth when I applied to the LS you both were in. Making up shit that was not true, and getting them to deny me. I would've had a chance if it wasn't for your stupid antics by taking my application and using it as a personal vendetta against me. That, in Xen's book, was stupid. Then you went off on him saying things you dislike about him, which made him feel like a total loser. I don't know how you can say you are his friend when you treat him worse than a pile of dog crap.

If it's anyones fault, its yours. Try being a good friend, it will get you somewhere, even beyond FFXI. I don't necessarily agree with him taking the gaitors, but I think we both know you provoked the situation. All I can say is sorry for your loss, but I'm glad Xenora realised how much of a self concieted bitchy angry waste of space you are.

[Tsuji]

Look, you want to know why Xenora transferred? I'll tell you the truth.

Its because of you,Sath. Yes, it's because of you.

I've kept in contact with Xen SINCED he moved to Ifrit, I was very upset when he did so. And when I found out he was going along with you, I knew it would eventually become a problem.

Sath, you have anger issues. Admit it , you do. It's the reason you were a terrible leader of CDC. No one had respect for you, and you even mentioned to members that your were going to break the LS after you recieved what you desired.

Xen was NOTHING but an amazing friend to you. You made him feel like shit, you run your mouth and don't know when to end. He said there were problems in the LS before this, but didn't go into full details. What set him off and caused this situation though, was you running your mouth when I applied to the LS you both were in. Making up shit that was not true, and getting them to deny me. I would've had a chance if it wasn't for your stupid antics by taking my application and using it as a personal vendetta against me. That, in Xen's book, was stupid. Then you went off on him saying things you dislike about him, which made him feel like a total loser. I don't know how you can say you are his friend when you treat him worse than a pile of dog crap.

If it's anyones fault, its yours. Try being a good friend, it will get you somewhere, even beyond FFXI. I don't necessarily agree with him taking the gaitors, but I think we both know you provoked the situation. All I can say is sorry for your loss, but I'm glad Xenora realised how much of a self concieted bitchy angry waste of time you are.

wow o.o O.o o.O o.o

[Arthars]

Being said, my cousin is in this LMXVII shell

all i can say this shell is pretty organised and is a HNM LS more than a social LS. If you want loots and friend, this LS has it all. If you only a loot whore, gtfo (well xenora did lol)

but here comes the problem, according to the above poster, xenora have problem with sath

PROBLEMS WITH SATH. I dont have much problem with him tho even im not in the shell. He may not be a good leader but for sure hes a pretty good LS member to me.

still, that doesnt give Xenora a chance make up an excuse to ninja LS properties and then gtfoifrit and screw up somebody's LS, which leader is kinda good friend of mine and i got lotsa good friend in the LS

sorry to hear that mafai, but 1 gaiters and baha staff only to know one's true colors is worth it.

Not like it will affect the overall performance/morale of the LS that much because of a fucked up taru.

anyone out there just beware, you can believe all you want from this Xenora. But one day he/she may just fuck ur LS or someone up WHOM he/she agreed to move with(abandon entire server to move with someone you have problems with. Sounds like a incoming great scheme).

Summary:
"Sath is the problem, but i go ifrit with him, and i get items, and i move server, i win, my plan works"

pure win

anyway, which HNM LS dont have a problem in the entire lifespan of the shell?
if you dont like it, gtfo, but please inform your LS leader, or friend(if you have but i dont think xenora have any) rather than ninja move right after a tiamat battle lol

it makes no sense but telling us how much an asshole xenora is

i'm sorry xenora, i dont know you well but im speaking everything from the looks of current situation.
Having problems with LS is fine, thats your problem
the LS sucks is fine, thats not your problem
Sath is pos is fine, thats your problem with sath
NINJAed LS ITEMS AND MOVE SERVER IS NOT LOL, THATS A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH YOU

[Cocanut]

Being said, my cousin is in this LMXVII shell

all i can say this shell is pretty organised and is a HNM LS more than a social LS. If you want loots and friend, this LS has it all. If you only a loot whore, gtfo (well xenora did lol)

but here comes the problem, according to the above poster, xenora have problem with sath

PROBLEMS WITH SATH. I dont have much problem with him tho even im not in the shell. He may not be a good leader but for sure hes a pretty good LS member to me.

still, that doesnt give Xenora a chance make up an excuse to ninja LS properties and then gtfoifrit and screw up somebody's LS, which leader is kinda good friend of mine and i got lotsa good friend in the LS

sorry to hear that mafai, but 1 gaiters and baha staff only to know one's true colors is worth it.

Not like it will affect the overall performance/morale of the LS that much because of a fucked up taru.

anyone out there just beware, you can believe all you want from this Xenora. But one day he/she may just fucked ur LS or Sath up.

Summary:
"Sath is the problem, but i go ifrit with him, and i get items, and i move server, i win"

pure win

Lol Sath a good member? Then how come I hear he almost got kicked not once, but twice now because of his anger. From what I hear he gets angry at events and screams at people, probably messing up everyones concentration. He did this on Fenrir in his own LS too. How is that a good LS member?

And did I say Xenora taking the gaitors was fine? No, I didn't. But look at it this way. Theres nothing you can do about, so why linger on it? It's not like he stole the whole ( or even close to the whole ) LS bank. Plus, did he not "earn" the items? Your LS has a lotting system, where everyone lots and whoever gets the highest wins. Maybe you should change the way you distribute your items. Or, just not accept people like Sath who cause issues and have drama written on their forehead.

[Arthars]

a good LS member can 24/7 be an asshole but as long he shown commitments to the LS and dont pull out ninja stuns is fine.

how many times you seen assholes with adaberk? why leader keep them?

because they shown more commitment to LS rather then mr-nice-guy who got item, decide not to go LS event, lvl up GALKA MULE, ninjaed gaiters and moved server

i'll pick the asshole over mr-nice-guy for once if i make a LS as long he listens lol

if you want a good friend, just go make your "BarnieAndFriends" LS, gtfo HNM LS since the start

HNM IS DRAMAAAAAAAAAAA

[Tsuji]

HNM IS DRAMAAAAAAAAAAA

period. :3

[Cocanut]

a good LS member can 24/7 be an asshole but as long he shown commitments to the LS and dont pull out ninja stuns is fine.

how many times you seen assholes with adaberk? why leader keep them?

because they shown more commitment to LS rather then mr-nice-guy who got item, decide not to go LS event, lvl up GALKA MULE, ninjaed gaiters and moved server

i'll pick the asshole over mr-nice-guy for once if i make a LS as long he listens lol

if you want a good friend, just go make your "BarnieAndFriends" LS, gtfo HNM LS since the start

HNM IS DRAMAAAAAAAAAAA

I had to reread that ... give or take 3 times.

Anyways, I can't really defend Xenora because I wasn't there, I'm just going by what I know of previous instances and what he told me.

Yes, keeping assholes is fine. But it has to end to a certain degree...atleast I hope so.

But seriously... the lotting system had this coming to the LS. Don't allow someone to lot on an item and give it to them in you are not fully aware something like this could happen.

Xenora and Sath were both wrong. Sath should've controlled his temper, and Xenora should've talked to the LS about the items. Arguing is not going to get this anywhere, so I'm done.

[Arthars]

anyway lets just keep it to a warning post

we dont need to know who is victim who is winner here anymore, he/she is gone from ifrit lol

just beware of a good friend, who will ninja ur LS property, move server, and eventually blame 1 person for it

Fenrir, your warned

[Zragnarok]

And did I say Xenora taking the gaitors was fine? No, I didn't. But look at it this way. Theres nothing you can do about, so why linger on it? It's not like he stole the whole ( or even close to the whole ) LS bank. Plus, did he not "earn" the items? Your LS has a lotting system, where everyone lots and whoever gets the highest wins. Maybe you should change the way you distribute your items. Or, just not accept people like Sath who cause issues and have drama written on their forehead.

This made me laugh. This is always the first things ppl who run with LS items says. Seriously, when you get a LS property item, you know it's not yours, you agreed to the LS rule and if you leave the LS, you should give it back. Running with it just show how much of a lootwhore and greedy person you are. It's not hard to msg any officer online and tell him to meet you in Whitegate to give him the gaiters and go you own fucking way after.

And about who I would get in my LS, i'd take someone who commit to the LS, get the job done but have some uncontrolled anger before any skilled player who doesn't show up to event or go lvl a mule. If you want to lvl a mule during LS event, don't join a HNMLS...

[BerenTebogo]

Yeah me being a bad video game friend despite every time myself or my wife wanted to event with Xenora he was too busy leveling his mule.

There's no excuse for this type of shit. Am I an asshole? Yes.

If you're not an asshole after playing FFXI for 4 years you probably have some sort of hidden agenda.

Not once did xenora ever express to me that there was a problem, I could beat up old people and steal money from churches, doesn't give Xenora carte blanche to act the way he did towards the LS.

And like I already said in your BC, you are an attention whore, and xenora routinely makes himself the victim, when we had our initial BC to ifrit it was made known that I am what? AN ASSHOLE. But what did people have to say about xenora? That he was flaky and couldn't be trusted.

I tried to turn that around and give him a second chance on Ifrit with me, I may be a dick but I've toned it down a lot since I've been here, but without a word of reason Xenora throws himself on the cross then blames me? Yeah, "you weren't a great friend brb stealing tons of stuff from the LS" isn't in anyways more plausible than "well, finally got everything I wanted, back to fenrir where I can do whatever I want."

In short, Cocanut, your opinion on pretty much anything is null and void, because you're what, 12? And you have a second-hand account of all of this coming from someone who by their own admission is butthurt over being shunned on a video game.

If being an asshole is a character flaw worthy of ostricizing, what is being a thief and childish windbag who only posts on these forums to get people to feel bad for him?

[Cail]

sath sucks...he pisses me off on multiple occasions. but he still does what is asked of him. he doesnt get butthurt when we ask him to come on a job he doesnt want to come (granted he only has pld and nin cuz he sucks at life and i hate him).

xen up and left the ls and didnt say a fucking word. I dont even know how we found out actually. I just saw on LS he bounced back to fenrir.

But seriously... the lotting system had this coming to the LS. Don't allow someone to lot on an item and give it to them in you are not fully aware something like this could happen.

so we should just not let anyone lot anything cuz technically anyone can do it? are u retarded? lol..... yes, no one can win anymore items in any ls ever cuz they mite leave cuz they're sad they had to come a job they mite not like or someone is being mean to them... argh...

[DeadLegend]

Xen constantly AFKd, randomly emo'd out and left us on stuff, didn't pay attention half the time we did have him along on things. I am not a member of lm17 but as viewers of the noob section know, sath and I do bunches of random crap as a pair, and I'm in Sath's Einherjar and Salvage groups. Originally we had a trio with xenora but eventually he flaked out on us completely, for better or worse. Xen just seems like a crappy dude all in all.

Also, in my experience sath is only an asshole to people who are retarded or constantly afk(Hi cotter). The kind of people who cast bar spells in blessed pants and af2 coat, or kite in hauteclaire and koenig boots, or don't pay attention to simple instructions in salvage. I've basically only been on the game for this half of the year to screw around with sath and his wife, and to find new and exciting ways for sath to try and make me lose exp on rdm.
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[Aurara]

Xen constantly AFKd, randomly emo'd out and left us on stuff, didn't pay attention half the time we did have him along on things. I am not a member of lm17 but as viewers of the noob section know, sath and I do bunches of random crap as a pair, and I'm in Sath's Einherjar and Salvage groups. Originally we had a trio with xenora but eventually he flaked out on us completely, for better or worse. Xen just seems like a crappy dude all in all.

Also, in my experience sath is only an asshole to people who are retarded or constantly afk(Hi cotter). The kind of people who cast bar spells in blessed pants and af2 coat, or kite in hauteclaire and koenig boots, or don't pay attention to simple instructions in salvage. I've basically only been on the game for this half of the year to screw around with sath and his wife, and to find new and exciting ways for sath to try and make me lose exp on rdm.
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You forgot me you asshole

[Kilik]

Let's be honest guys. Xenora got gaiters already and was heading out to level her mule. She cant be bothered with stupid Tiamat anymore since she doesnt need anything else. Same with Abody. Still wanted Baha Mask so there was never any exp pts (on main char or on mule) that got in the way of being on time to a B2 run.

Blaming it on Sath is bullshit. I wish I SS'd Sath saying "fuck you" when katana dropped in Nyzul and he wasnt there. It would be perfect material for me to use as an excuse for stealing the LS bank money/currency one day.

[thunderlips]

I have known Sath for a while since joining our small man salvage group as well as our ex Einherjar LS, and I'll have to say hes not the giant asshole you're making him out to be. Is he a little tense at times? Sure, but really if your playing FFXI you're gonna get stressed out from time to time. I've bitten off the heads of my LS members on several occasions over little shit.

But would that make it ok for me to just up and leave with LS items? No. There really is no excuse in the world for taking any LS item other than you're a loot whore.

Also to stab someone in the back who vouched for your character is just something you don't do to a friend. Also I fail to see why when Sath pointed out what had happened to warn people about what Xen did, he gets gang raped by people crying because hes so mean.

As far as my experience with Xen goes its limited to a few salvage runs, but from them i noticed he wasnt very swift or seem to pay attention to what was going on. I would usally end up doing most of the curing/status removal for the group for the whole run. He didnt seem like was there on the run, just at the keybaord maybe once every 5 or 10 min.