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  1. #1
    Relic Horn
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    Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    Last night on carbuncle we had - I shit you not - 40 people waiting in front of Nyzul Entrance to get in and always got the "Cannot enter at this time" or "conenction lost" error.

    Is there a total limit on people and groups that can enter? When I searched nyzul tehre were only 45 people in

  2. #2
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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    Not that I know of... But I do know that you have to wait a few minutes after another group enters before you can, so maybe all leaders were spamming door.

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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    Usually I get that kind of message when there is 3-4 groups enter before us. Well, I'm thinking it might be 3 group are allow to going at the same time. Since for the usual bcnm, i'm believe only 2 groups are able to run at once?

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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Osede
    Usually I get that kind of message when there is 3-4 groups enter before us. Well, I'm thinking it might be 3 group are allow to going at the same time. Since for the usual bcnm, i'm believe only 2 groups are able to run at once?
    significant difference: nyzul is actually an instance server, BCNM's are just a set number of cloned areas on the same server.


    I'd expect that it was the door spamming thing or an issue with the server - I know I've seen more than 45 at once in several of the assault zones and I'd be surprised if nyzul could hold fewer than those.

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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    As far as I know you can have as many people as you want in nyzul. The reason you were getting told to wait is because the group before you is still in the "staging area" (with the vending machine). As soon as they move up to whatever floor they are going to the area is clear and the next group can enter.

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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    Not true. Salvage, nyzul, and assaults are truly instanced.
    After 1 group enters, there will be about a 30s delay while your world server reserves a new available instance from a pool of machines which are probably shared among all servers.

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    Relic Horn
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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    Funny thing is we tried to enter TOAU 42 BC and couldnt enter

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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    I guess all instanced battles like salvage, assaults, Ashu Talif, ToAU missions etc handled by one pool of servers for all worlds.
    On Phoenix close to JP midnight time it can be from 30 to 120 ppl waiting in Undersea Ruins + the same amount inside and it's still impossible to enter any of these if you're not spamming on runic seal like crazy (we're usually doing Nyzul Isle assault close to this time, but have tried Salvage and other assaults before too).

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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Not true. Salvage, nyzul, and assaults are truly instanced.
    After 1 group enters, there will be about a 30s delay while your world server reserves a new available instance from a pool of machines which are probably shared among all servers.
    30s? On the average Sunday afternoon around 2pm (GMT+1) we have to wait ~10-20 minutes to enter Salvage (or Assault if someone didn't have enough AP for a permit), much to our dismay obviously...

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    Relic Horn
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    Re: Max number of Groups allowed in Nyzul / Assault

    lol wonder how Odin Server looks like then

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