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    Mob TP with Barrage

    Hi. Idk if anyone else has asked this (I couldn't find a specific thread when I searched the forums), but I was wondering how much TP a mob gains from Barrage?

    I know how basic mob TP is calculated, and I know that multi-hit WS are exceptions in that u get TP for original shot, then 1 for each successive hit that lands.

    Is Barrage calculated the same way, or is the mob just given TP for "hitting" the first time? Or does it receive a load of TP as well?

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    It receives TP as if it were 5-6 individual shots. At least this is the way I always observed it.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Depending on how many shots actually land 1,2,3,4,5,6 it would give the mob....

    Example...

    x(tp per hit)X*y(number of shots landed)

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Quote Originally Posted by rktilghman
    Depending on how many shots actually land 1,2,3,4,5,6 it would give the mob....

    Example...

    x(tp per hit)X*y(number of shots landed)

    I agree. I was just assuming a full hit barrage.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Yeah. So be careful in the scorpion KS30 lol. Once I woke my scorp up with a barrage after the first BLM sleep when we were low manning it, and it immediately used a TP attack and woke the others

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn
    Yeah. So be careful in the scorpion KS30 lol. Once I woke my scorp up with a barrage after the first BLM sleep when we were low manning it, and it immediately used a TP attack and woke the others
    You've just given the reason why I don't bring melee when doing that KS30 lol.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    This is why rng's using barrage on Orc NM's in Dynamis is a bad thing.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    I'll say this about Blm's, I love when they know the melees are bored and willing to set up a Skillchain, that they'll actually time it to let them burst to their hearts content, and then they still cast whatever the hell at 75% > make the mob path all over the place to them > "...is too far away." the SC closer, AND complain that the SC didn't go off....

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    I don't know offhand, but you could go out to a place with stoneskin/utsusemi and barrage a random mob and then charm it and do <pettp>.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    pettp is still broken.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Cerberus readies Gates of Hades.
    A lot of people take damage due to missed stuns.
    RNG uses Barrage.
    RNG's ranged attack his Cerberus for some amount of damage.
    Cerberus readies Gates of Hades.
    Linkshell wipes.

    True story, happened on Fairy.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Individual hits, as far as I observe. I often duo things on drk with a rng, and whenever she uses barrage assuming a decent amount of hits land, it's a very good time to absorb-TP.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Cerberus readies Gates of Hades.
    A lot of people take damage due to missed stuns.
    RNG uses Barrage.
    RNG's ranged attack his Cerberus for some amount of damage.
    Cerberus readies Gates of Hades.
    Linkshell wipes.

    True story, happened on Fairy.
    The foremost reason I almost never use barrage when we have "tank" in our fight.
    - After full hit barrage, it's guaranteed mob got enough TP to spam immediately
    - If your barrage number is good, hate will become chaotic

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    RNG gets what like 20 TP a shot?
    6 hit barrage with WAR SJ would be like 138~ TP to the mob it is being used on lol.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    RNG gets what like 20 TP a shot?
    6 hit barrage with WAR SJ would be like 138~ TP to the mob it is being used on lol.
    15TP with a bow
    13TP with a x-bow

    but wtf... ami missing something.. maybe its because I don't have AF on my RNG yet but when I hit a barrage with arrows the max i get is a 4 hit for a total of 60TP... never gotten more than a 60TP return on a bow... which would mean I'm capping at 4 arrows unless barrage reduces amount of TP gained to 10TP/shot and if thats the case I would expect the mob would receive reduced TP as well. with a max being at 60%?

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Barrage is tiered, you start with like 3 shots at 30 and end up with 5 shots (70+ I think), 6 if you have AF1+1 hands.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    ok cool found it.. makes more sense now:
    Barrage can fire up to 4 shots at level 30, 5 shots at level 50, 6 shots at level 75.

    Lv49RNG atm.

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    Re: Mob TP with Barrage

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Cerberus readies Gates of Hades.
    A lot of people take damage due to missed stuns.
    RNG uses Barrage.
    RNG's ranged attack his Cerberus for some amount of damage.
    Cerberus readies Gates of Hades.
    Linkshell wipes.

    True story, happened on Fairy.
    Barrage is for Ripping down stoneskin ASAP when the TP gain is nonexistant. EES is for trying to knock off the 1% Cerb that got a GOH or two through.

    Basically soloed a 1% Cerb that got Spammy after logging on and making it there right as 95% of the alliance was dead.

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