Wolf - OP or OP?

[Ryko]

I'm going with OP

[Ramor]

<3 Wolf, but I must be doing something wrong if he's OP, what's so OP about him?

[Ryko]

Just generic QQing actually, no real conviction in it, though some of the crap he can pull on ledges with his side B is sorta ridiculous.

[ronin sparthos]

Skilled Olimar = QQ

[Noobta]

I hit side b by accident sometimes and always die curse you final destination

[Ryko]

Note: Doesnt work on FD

[Noobta]

I'm cheap and always play on FD against CPU. I don't like obstacles

[Deejay]

Fuck that, I honestly don't understand why Pikachu's Thunder is in the game. It hits everything above and directly around him with a FUCKING REDICULOUS knockback. Seriously, when you can get 3 kills per 2minute FFA simply by spamming one move, things are wrong.

[Elcura]

Wolf is amazing! Until you get him off the stage and realize that he can't recover for shit. I swear it's the most frustrating thing when you try to recover below the ledge and end up dying...

But I do like using the trick with Wolf's Side B to zip through the stage. Also, why do the majority of Wolf's moves send the opponent straight up into the air? I thought the forward smash would actually send them...forward.

[BRP]

Fuck that, I honestly don't understand why Pikachu's Thunder is in the game. It hits everything above and directly around him with a FUCKING REDICULOUS knockback. Seriously, when you can get 3 kills per 2minute FFA simply by spamming one move, things are wrong.

I can be compared to Kirby's Stone move.... if Kirby instead became a tower... that did damage for a duration of 4 seconds.

[Elcura]

Fuck that, I honestly don't understand why Pikachu's Thunder is in the game. It hits everything above and directly around him with a FUCKING REDICULOUS knockback. Seriously, when you can get 3 kills per 2minute FFA simply by spamming one move, things are wrong.

I can be compared to Kirby's Stone move.... if Kirby instead became a tower... that did damage for a duration of 4 seconds.

But... Kirby doesn't become a tower that does damage for 4 seconds...

[Noobta]

Fuck that, I honestly don't understand why Pikachu's Thunder is in the game. It hits everything above and directly around him with a FUCKING REDICULOUS knockback. Seriously, when you can get 3 kills per 2minute FFA simply by spamming one move, things are wrong.

I can be compared to Kirby's Stone move.... if Kirby instead became a tower... that did damage for a duration of 4 seconds.

But... Kirby doesn't become a tower that does damage for 4 seconds...

He's saying thunder is like kirby's stone move, but is a tower and lasts for 4 seconds.

[BRP]

Also, now I can't fix "I" into "It" jerks

[Ramor]

Wolf is amazing! Until you get him off the stage and realize that he can't recover for shit. I swear it's the most frustrating thing when you try to recover below the ledge and end up dying...

HOLY SHIT, thank god I'm not the only one that does this, that really is the most annoying way to die...when you're at like 20% and you die because you knick the side of the edge and it sends you underneath instead of up the side

[Elcura]

Fuck that, I honestly don't understand why Pikachu's Thunder is in the game. It hits everything above and directly around him with a FUCKING REDICULOUS knockback. Seriously, when you can get 3 kills per 2minute FFA simply by spamming one move, things are wrong.

I can be compared to Kirby's Stone move.... if Kirby instead became a tower... that did damage for a duration of 4 seconds.

But... Kirby doesn't become a tower that does damage for 4 seconds...

He's saying thunder is like kirby's stone move, but is a tower and lasts for 4 seconds.

I know what he's saying, I just don't understand why you would want to compare it to a totally different move that a completely different character uses. I could also say that Ike's Eruption was like thunder, if the explosion went up in a tower like fashion that did damage for 4 seconds. But meh, who cares. Pikachu's thunder is easy enough to avoid and what not.

Wolf is amazing! Until you get him off the stage and realize that he can't recover for shit. I swear it's the most frustrating thing when you try to recover below the ledge and end up dying...

HOLY SHIT, thank god I'm not the only one that does this, that really is the most annoying way to die...when you're at like 20% and you die because you knick the side of the edge and it sends you underneath instead of up the side

Yeah, that's happened to me way to many times to think about. It makes me afraid to persue characters off-stage because I know I'll fuck up when trying to get back.

[Flarega]

I love wolf, but with any starfox character I have a terrible habit of using side B while on the stage and falling off then dieing. His recovery is annoying as well, but I think I can get over both of these problems by simply playing as wolf a lot more.

[BRP]

I know what he's saying, I just don't understand why you would want to compare it to a totally different move that a completely different character uses. I could also say that Ike's Eruption was like thunder, if the explosion went up in a tower like fashion that did damage for 4 seconds.

Kirby's Stone is a move that hits as straight vertical and has a different hit box around the body.

[Meian]

Kirby Stone is as annoying as Pikachu's Thunder in 4 way online............. Harder to grab Kirby Stone now than back in Melee -_-

[Not Kuno]

Kirby Stone is as annoying as Pikachu's Thunder in 4 way online............. Harder to grab Kirby Stone now than back in Melee -_-

I have noticed this and it's annoying.

[AoE]

I've gotten pretty good recovering with Wolf and on a large stage, I usually get close to 150% minimum before I die depending on if I'm up against a fast char or not. FD and the first form of Fire Emblem's stage are pretty much the only place where I may self-destruct but it's all about positioning. I've been knocked down before off the screen and if I position myself correctly and if the stage isn't very high off the bottom (like Pit's Stage) I can usually recover. I use Forward B for mind games. It's too fucking dangerous to use any other way and it's near impossible to spike anyone with it without risking getting spiked yourself (although I actually spiked a Fox in a free for all when we were both knocked off stage and recovering)