Pandemonium Warden - The aftermath theories.

[RKenshin]

If you didn't want any publicity, why did you post on this thread that "We'll be using the PW set sometime soon."?

Why not just post AFTER you killed it?

Since making that post I've received a good deal of helpful information via PM/IM/whatever that will help a lot in deciding our strategy. For the most part both PW threads that exist right now are rather bare-boned and unhelpful to any LS attempting to build a plan for this fight. Making a post about going for an attempt helped reach out to get information other people haven't posted yet.

That is a large part of why I posted beforehand, as it gave an opportunity for gathering outside information rather than rushing into the fight blindly. Kaeko pointed out exactly that as well... It wasn't meant as publicity, it was meant as a way of figuring shit out.

In addition, my original post about the PW sets being complete was a follow-up to the previous post I made in this topic:

No new groups attempting? Or is it more of a 'we're working on it but don't want to divulge our secrets' sort of thing.

LS has been pumping out a shitload of ZNMs, might have a PW set or two in the very near future. We've been putting off doing the higher tier NM fights but we're starting to spend more time on it now.

We have at least 24 T4 sets that we're planning to use this week. And there's enough near-complete sets for a good 10 more T4 sets in the near future... But soon as we get a PW set we'll be going for it. Shouldn't be too hard to do though, the LS has been really driven about this... Combined I think we're making like 4-8 T4 sets a week.

Hoping to see at least 1-3 PW sets out of the T4 fest!

Is all that reason enough? Even though I shouldn't even need a reason to make a post.

And don't get hopes up about us beating it or finding out anything new, as much as I'd love to be optimistic about it I'm not counting on anything new being discovered. All we're promising is a solid attempt for 5-9 hours or so, and sharing any info on the fight we find useful.

Thread note:
I'd rather not have to lock this thread/see it locked, as it's the only place to discuss PW at the moment. So keep the shit-flinging down, for both sides of the argument.

Seriously, no more of the 'wtf pop PW already' nor the 'wtf get off their ass' posts. Both sides drop it.

[ByeByeTasai]

Erased post per request of Rkenshin. And I agree with him, let's stop all this drama and continue with a productive thread.

[Bozo]

Thought of this the other day but it would be really awesome to see a PW form with PW as Luzaf and the lamps as Fomor COR's. It definitely wouldn't surprise me since we've already seen Medusa + Lamia's, (I forget if there was a Gulool or Gurfurlur.), and generals + imperial soldiers.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Thought of this the other day but it would be really awesome to see a PW form with PW as Luzaf and the lamps as Fomor COR's. It definitely wouldn't surprise me since we've already seen Medusa + Lamia's, (I forget if there was a Gulool or Gurfurlur.), and generals + imperial soldiers.

Huh. You got me thinking, maybe the reason Gulool/Gurf didn't show up was because they're in the same "set" as the Serpent Generals, so they would've appeared later.

Luzaf would be awesome, and not much of a spoiler either, like the Alexander idea some people have.

[further]

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I wasn't saying you should or shouldn't have made your post. I was just pointing out the fact that when you post on a public forum, you have to expect all the negatives that go along with posting on public forums. So getting upset that people are asking if you popped it yet (I didn't see anybody getting "pissed" about it, like another poster mentioned) seems a little silly to me.

I have plenty of respect for you and your LS, and I wish you guys luck. When I made my post (the one that simply said "pop?"), I was asking because I have a friend on your server, and she noticed a lot of your LS members were in the zone.

Again, good luck when your LS decides to pop it. I think we all look forward to any new information you can provide from your experience.

[Darkdoom]

Let us not forget... Alexander can't move at all, and what would his lamps be? The annoying "ZOMG EYES ON ME LOL YOU DIE" BLU?

[Waef]

No, Pandemonium Warden would be a giant Alexander, and the lamps would be smaller ones, and then 2 lamps would form each leg, 1 would form each arm, and 2 would form the head, to form the ultimate Alexanderbot, a giant mechanical flying laser shooting energy sword swinging annihilating creation that would destroy all of Aydeewa in 1 fell swoop.

[RKenshin]

Everyone do yourself a huge favor and do not waste a minute more of your fucking time on this NM. Seriously, do not.

19 forms (all with 8 lamps) until you get to the last, the last mob respawns all lamps every 25%. 18 and a half hours to get that far, and we just couldn't go any further. You have to fight tougher versions of Hydra/Khim/Cerb that take hours by themselves, all beastmen kings, all besieged generals, all chariots, besieged mobs, etc.

Not fucking worth it at all.

I'll update with specific details sometime later if people really want to know more, but this is just about the most fucking retarded thing I've ever heard of in a video game.

[The Stig]

Everyone do yourself a favor and do not waste a minute more of your fucking time on this NM. Seriously, do not.

19 forms (all with 8 lamps) until you get to the last, the last respawns all lamps every 25%. 18 and a half hours to get that far, and we just couldn't go any further. You have to fight tougher versions of Hydra/Khim/Cerb that take hours by themselves, all beastmen kings, etc.

Not fucking worth it at all.

I'll update with details sometime later if people really want to know more, but this is just about the most fucking retarded thing I've ever heard of in a video game.

Wow.

I'm speechless.

[Hank]

Fucking awful.

Chariots (4) > Beastmen Families (3) > Generals (5) > Vampyre > Khimiera > Hydra > Cerberus > PW.

[Sylphet]

Summary:
Armored Chariot
Long-Bowed Chariot
Battleclad Chariot
Long-Armed Chariot
Trolls
Mamool
Acrolyth
Galka
Elvaan
Mithra
Hume BLM
Hume RNG
Gurfurlur
Medusa
Gulool Ja Ja
Vampire (Imp Lamps)
Hydra (Dahak Lamps)
Khimaria (Puk Lamps)
Cerberus (Bomb Lamps)
Dverger - after you kill all of the above he will pop with "hatched" lamps - smaller chair dudes.
We killed all of the Lamps and at 75% he popped another 8 and regened to 100%. We attempted again but the lamps were faster this time and we wiped after killing just one.

People were passing out and getting physically ill. We decided to end it before we risked turning into a horrible new story about how video games ruin people's lives.

Fight start time: 3:30pm EST, End time: 9:00am

Fuck you SE.

[Lhexh]

Fucking awful.

Chariots (4) > Beastmen Families (3) > Generals (5) > Vampyre > Khimiera > Hydra > Cerberus > PW.

Armored Chariot
Long-Bow Chariot
Battleclad Chariot
Long-Armed Chariot

Troll Destroyers
Mamool Ja Hussar
Acroliths

Galka General ( +25% Movement speed )
Elvaan General
Mithra General
Hume BLM
Hume RNG

Gurfurlur the Menacing
Medusa
Gulool Ja Ja

Vampyr + Bats
Hydra + Dahak
Khimaira + Puks
Cerberus + Bombs
Dvergr + Mini-Dvergrs

[Jaffar]

brb starting new ZNM shell

[Hank]

Oh, and the final form of PW didn't just repop his own pets. He popped an additional 8 which all used each astral flow and wiped the entire alliance. They depopped immediately after, leaving us wiped with a regening PW and his original 8 lamps, which spammed t3 aga's and t4 spells, at super fast cast speed. Not quite instantly, but pretty damn close.

[Icien]

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[TB]

Seems like SE is still struggling to find the balance between mobs that became ridiculously easy (almost everything in the game nowadays) and challenging mobs. lol

[drwaffles]

That is absolutely disgusting. I'm sorry you wasted 18 fruitless hours doing that, I really am. No one should ever have to dedicate that much time and effort to a video game, screw SE and their utterly retarded bi-polar game design.

[Reapz]

There is challenging and there is just plain stupid, 18 hours fighting something isn't challenging it's crazy. I can't believe you guys kept at it for that long but good job lol. I guess questions about AV at interviews will be changed to PW now lol

[yayaok]

if BtL couldn't take this thing down... will there ever be justice in ffxi?

[Fridell]

Haha, hell! The Pandemonium Warden seems like some form of joke from SE, i bet they just wanted to mess with the players alot this time. Hahaha!