Pld gear 59-75

[Terrestrialrage]

Just hit 59 on Pld today, and im torn between some gear choices. Atm my gear looks like:

Gluttony/RK Shield/-/Morion
Gallant/Beak/Buckler/Mercenary's
Haub+1/Storm Mano's/Ulthalam's/Ether
Earth Mantle/Swift/Gallant/Gallant

First question involves my roll in a party. Before these next few levels, the access to DD gear was limited, but now i find myself switching in pieces for DD just because the Enmity or VIT counterpart isnt that good. Should i go all out DD? (Acc ring instead of Ether, Attack earrings instead of Shield/Vit?)

Second question is in regards to the levels coming up, and all the way til 75. Should i stay the DD gear course? (Acc neck, Amemet +1 in the next 2 levels) Thank you!

[Stromgarde]

Race can play an important factor. What are you?

[Callisto]

I just hit 70 myself...I'd ditch the Gluttony for a TM Espadon +1/2, and @ 60 IR Shield is great, Sentinel Shield is nice too. At 65 go Beaver Tail+1 for sword, if you have Joyeuse @ 70 it's a monster for hate in XP from what I've experienced so far.

In regards to party role, I do both sort of, all my Flash/Voke etc is done in Enmity gear, then I idle in DD gear...if the party is really heavy on DD and my output is much less by comparison I just focus on hate/helping cure, but the additional DD output of the hybrid style really helps holding hate. I'd ditch the Ether ring either way, Hercules ring is coming up, or a Mermaid if you can now for Flash/Voke, then acc ring for idling.

For the back I use Resentment Cape and Amemet+1, though aside from Resentment Cape the enmity choices on back is nonexistant I believe, so may be better to stay with a High Breath. For legs, R.K. Breeches are good, I stay in Gallant feet full time. For hands, Fourth Gauntlets for TP, Sipahi for WS, AF or Storm for hate moves.

And if you haven't already, start making AN for the Iron Ram gear, it really is a fantastic set for the ease of getting it, head and legs are both very nice.

Edit: Also for neck I idle in PCC, but I have a macro to tap Parade Gorget in when HP is high enough. I also swap a Shield Torque into C3/C4.

[Terrestrialrage]

Elvaan, btw

[Callisto]

Me too, ftr. And MP really isn't enough of an issue to warrant the Ether Ring, trust me.

[Atlasion]

Amemet Mantle +1 would be good. Focus on DD, but good to have DEF and MP/enmity gear incase you're fighting something you can't DD.

[Ruiner]

Copypasta from a post I made on a different forum.

To keep hate around levels 52 and above, turtle tanking doesn't work. Mobs become squishier and Paladins can't keep up with just Voke and DEF, VIT and Enmity gear. Recommend a Hybrid setup to your friend. This is probably the ideal set for level 60:

Weapon: Tactician Magician's Espadon +2
Shield: Wivre Shield
Ammo: Tiphia Sting
Head: Gallant Coronet
Neck: Peacock Charm
Body: Haubergeon +1
Ear1: Assault Earring
Ear2: Buckler Earring
Hands: Gallant Gauntlets
Ring1: Ulthalam's Ring
Ring2: Rajas Ring
Waist: Swift Belt
Back: High Breath Mantle
Legs: Gallant Breeches
Feet: Gallant Leggings

This set gives +33 Accuracy, +13 DEX, +38 Attack, +13 STR, 4% Haste and +19 Enmity. With a setup like this, you'll be contributing to the party's damage, all while keeping hate and mitigating a good amount of damage.

[Tomiko]

I was a "Turtle Pld" for all of my leveling and I didn't have too much trouble holding hate. I like Callisto's hybrid role though.

Some changes I would suggest:
Beak ~> Parade Gorget (I fulltimed it til 65 since I would always keep myself cured enough to keep it active)
Mercenary's ~> Assault Earring would be better for the DD aspect. I think I used Intruder's Earring.
Ether ~> Mermaid Ring, BQ Ring (I liked the HP), or another acc ring.
Earth Mantle ~> High Breath Mantle

[Avarice]

You have Storm Manopolas? Die in a fire. Seriously.

(and inb4Furionstormrage)

[Sedres]

Let's face it, no one is going to invite you for your DD capabilities through those levels, it'd be nice if we could maintain hate through damage alone, but other jobs simply do it better. It's basically a balance between everything everyone has already said (dd, enmity, hp, vit). However, while it's nice to have options try not to hinder your purpose to the party (for example, mages get especially pished off if you blink when they're trying to cure)!

I'm a hume, so VIT and HP is more of an issue for me than perhaps yourself. Maybe try and score some of the iron ram gear (the head hands and legs would perhaps be of more benefit for you at the moment) from campaign for the buckets of enmity it gives, the mag defence is always useful in places like the mire with imp's aga and tier III. Maintaining this approach, you could pick up high breath mantle if you're having trouble finding enmity for other slots (Allied Notes can be a pain to accumulate quickly if you don't enjoy campaign).

As for your second question it depends what you're doing and where. I never bothered to gain hate through DD myself and I don't bother to do so now. Hopefully when you are required to tank, you'll be supported with players that don't perform epeen felacio by WSing at the very start of a fight before you establish some hate!

[Furionstormrage]

Aht Urghan mobs are mostly wimps compared to what people used to XP on, so there's no reason that a PLD should use a Mach+1 or anything that hurts their ability to hit the mob.

To answer the OP, I'd keep Shield Skill gear where you can get it, and DD everywhere else unless the DD option is a minimal amount and you could instead wear a good Enmity option. (Thinking back slot until 61, legs maybe, head)

Edit: This is assuming that your PT isn't overcamping, if that's the case, you could go all Shield/DEF/VIT and suffer it out, or find another party.

[Tomiko]

Aht Urghan mobs are mostly wimps compared to what people used to XP on, so there's no reason that a PLD should use a Mach+1 or anything that hurts their ability to hit the mob.

Use it with Dorado Sushi.

[eva00r]

I full time vermy cloak and become another healer aside from single RDM. I don't care much about losing aggro since all DD/NIN anyway, it would be great to let them get hate for a few shadows then Flash the monster back. In XP party the goal is to get much as exp as possible, so taking minimal damage, become less mp sink is also a step forward to that goal.

[AzazaelFenrir]

I will go ahead and ask this here since it is semi relevant.

I am a 47 PLD now. From what I read AF is a pretty decent option as I get it (situational if nothing else), is that still pretty accurate? I am in 4/5 I.R. gear right now.

As a Mithra PLD how long could I wear my RSE Hands for without looking sad?

[SamanosukeShiva]

yes it is, PLD AF1 is one of the job's AF that is actually useful

dont know about the rse, i'm elvaan

[Kimkytaru]

To keep hate around levels 52 and above, turtle tanking doesn't work. Mobs become squishier and Paladins can't keep up with just Voke and DEF, VIT and Enmity gear. Recommend a Hybrid setup to your friend. This is probably the ideal set for level 60:

Weapon: Tactician Magician's Espadon +2
Shield: Wivre Shield
Ammo: Tiphia Sting
Head: Gallant Coronet
Neck: Peacock Charm
Body: Haubergeon +1
Ear1: Assault Earring
Ear2: Buckler Earring
Hands: Gallant Gauntlets
Ring1: Ulthalam's Ring
Ring2: Rajas Ring
Waist: Swift Belt
Back: High Breath Mantle
Legs: Gallant Breeches
Feet: Gallant Leggings

This set gives +33 Accuracy, +13 DEX, +38 Attack, +13 STR, 4% Haste and +19 Enmity. With a setup like this, you'll be contributing to the party's damage, all while keeping hate and mitigating a good amount of damage.

Umm Sorry but I dont see why you would use a swift belt here. I remember reading that before you had 10% haste it wasnt really worth it.

Shouldnt a life belt be better in that case ? Also as pld I wouldnt use Tiphia sting personaly, would rather use a Bibiki or Olibanum Sachet.

[Bregor]

As a Mithra PLD how long could I wear my RSE Hands for without looking sad?

You'll be fine wearing RSE until AF.

[Callisto]

Umm Sorry but I dont see why you would use a swift belt here. I remember reading that before you had 10% haste it wasnt really worth it.

Because assuming your support doesn't fail you should have 15% haste off the bat, and every bit helps in regards to recast timers. The 10% haste thing you heard was in regards to Haste vs. Acc for a melee DD, but PLD has Flash recast timers to worry about as well.

[tonystigma]

As a Mithra PLD how long could I wear my RSE Hands for without looking sad?

Until AF hands. Mithra RSE is quite good, my girlfriend still uses the RSE shoes on her 50ish DRK. (She'd like Luisant but time farming gil vs having fun with the game..

[Kongolo]

for lvl 60..

Gluttony (or Macuahuitl +1 if u need more enmity)/Iron Ram Shield till 69 use General's shield till 73 use Koenig shield/(Lamia Kaman +1 at lvl 75)/Morion or Bibikay Seashell

Gallant/Parade Gorget/Buckler/Insomnia

Gallant/Gallant/Mermaid/Ether(till hercules lvl66)

Knight mantle (or lamia mantle 65)/Astral rope (Swift for /nin)/Gallant/Gallant

mostly after lvl 70 there is so so many gears to chose from for a PLD, u need to know wat kind of gears u need VIT/DEF, MDB, Enmity, HP or MP, and have as much as u could with ya all the time.

Switch to acc/att for ws to help hate.

that will be all dm(^.^)mb