Absolute Virtue ~ 9/8/08

[Kicoe]

A KClub DRK from our attempt did 6700 damage alone and he didn't even live full time.

If I remember right I survived the whole sixty seconds Souleater duration, however Perfect Dodge and being petrified 15-20 seconds cut the possible damage output by alot. Like Tricen wrote earlier, a bad timed Perfect Dodge (or Invincible for that matter) would screw any KC zerg attempt (besides the regular Meteor/Manafront problem). :/

84,38% acc with soulvoiced Madrigal x2 and a little more accuracy heavy setup, Feint, for those who are curious about AV's evasion.

Compliments to SA for getting it down that far.

[Khelek]

sushi on top of that, or no?

[Dankster]

We had 6 clubs on it, few sams and w/e else could fit. A few seconds into it we got hit with an impact stream that stopped the clubs and the drk whm's bene, so we could have won. It was really close. It's a huge luck thing on what he decides to use on you but he can be killed this way.. I'm guessing maybe 1 out of 10 trys if you get lucky.
We also were gonna try holding love alive longer, nuking and sc element of day ect. We didnt end up doing that because we just wanted a strait up zerge attmept and planned on trying diff stuff another day if the zerge turned out out to be hopeless. The love for this AV was alive 15-20mins or so didnt time it.

[Rammses]

You don't need Angon for SE KClub.

Edit: From examing overall damage, I also have to say that Souleater damage is the ONLY useful source of damage for a zerg on AV. Its defense is just way too high. 300TP Gekko from front with 5/5 Overwhelm, /WAR, Minuets and around 750 attack resulted in 440dmg...

A KClub DRK from our attempt did 6700 damage alone and he didn't even live full time.

I'm thinking RNG/WAR with Dia, Angon, Feint and Soul Voice Minuets using Slug/Sidewinder>Wing>Sideshot>Barrage>Slugwinder>EES could be very good support damage.

[Sonomaa]

I'm thinking RNG/WAR with Dia, Angon, Feint and Soul Voice Minuets using Slug/Sidewinder>Wing>Sideshot>Barrage>Slugwinder>EES could be very good support damage.

4 rangers, an AF2 hat COR and a BRD might be able to make a slugwinder spam party using SAM and DRK or RNG roll
base returned TP is 14 on ebow, 15 with rajas, using SAM roll and SAM sub might just make it viable for a nice 5 hit setup, that amount of damage would be pretty crazy

[Eruantalon]

doesn't new cor relic allow for roll bonuses if job isn't present in pt?

[Mizango]

doesn't new cor relic allow for roll bonuses if job isn't present in pt?

Yes.

[Kicoe]

sushi on top of that, or no?

No, used a NQ Carbonara.
Edit. ups wrong info, we infact had Feint.

[Bozo]

During the zerg attempt was the regen noticeable? Does dealing damage of the specific day help lower the regen? (I.E From a Corsairs Quick Draw or AoE spike spells from a scholar) Or is it specifically black magic only?

[DanielRemora]

I decided I'd skim through various logs and the post-video thread...

On the attempts that all available 2-hours were used, I didn't notice AV using the same 2-hour after that (With the exception of wipe & unclaim, plus regen). Is it possible that making your 2-hours unavailable when AV uses 2-hour stops him from using that 2-hour again (During that attempt)? The only exception appears to be the two Astral Flows used in the French/German(P1), and Japanese(P3) videos. Due to the repeated 2-hours from most of the alliance, it's safe to assume this was a seperate day.

Aside from that, did anyone ever get it to 79% after dispensing of all 2-hours as the video shows?

(Sorry, I skimmed, be gentle.)

[Tymon]

Solution to AV: Phalanx of Kraken Clubs

How ironic.

[Drex]

So AVs HP is based on how long you fought JoL?

[tymora]

Shock Choke Burn landed when I had ~339 elemental skill.
733 Burst 2 + ES = ~2% of hp. (Maintained 98% hp for the 15 sec I was alive lol)
-> Possible that Regen rate is linked to how much damage is done in the nuke of same element.
-> (733 - 5x(Regen Rate - Nuked same day)) > 2% hp.

587 Thunder IV = ~1% of hp (but regen is fast since nuked on lightsday)

-> 3 nukes before I KO-ed, 2 un-resisted. (Full Morrigan setup)

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If a DRK zerg attempt fails but brings it low enough to ~40%, a BLM alliance can likely manaburn it to the ground if it doesn't benediction.

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Also did a Black Halo (for 0 damage) with Prudence Rod but I didn't stick around to see if it used Meteor after that due to work.

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Any group willing to try to kill JoL with all types of sea weapons + virtue stones only just to see what it does? If killing JoL pops bring down regen, how about stuffing it with "Virtue"?

[Palom]

During the zerg attempt was the regen noticeable? Does dealing damage of the specific day help lower the regen? (I.E From a Corsairs Quick Draw or AoE spike spells from a scholar) Or is it specifically black magic only?

FYI, Scholar can't AOE Spikes spells.

[Kimiko]

Well, since black magic now appears to be a viable source of damage on AV, what sort of results could a merited scholar produce from helix spells on him?

[Karbuncle]

FYI, Scholar can't AOE Spikes spells.

We could toss a SMN in for Ice Spikes / Shock Spikes... If thats what he means (I know what your saying this isn't directed at you, just adding to the train of thought)

[TB]

We had 6 clubs on it, few sams and w/e else could fit. A few seconds into it we got hit with an impact stream that stopped the clubs and the drk whm's bene, so we could have won. It was really close. It's a huge luck thing on what he decides to use on you but he can be killed this way.. I'm guessing maybe 1 out of 10 trys if you get lucky.
We also were gonna try holding love alive longer, nuking and sc element of day ect. We didnt end up doing that because we just wanted a strait up zerge attmept and planned on trying diff stuff another day if the zerge turned out out to be hopeless. The love for this AV was alive 15-20mins or so didnt time it.

What about AV mdoe switch? Comet at 79%? Nothing at 59% and 39%? Or did you gank it so fast that you couldn't see it?

[Therin]

It was a zerg, so I doubt the entire attempted lasted more than a minute or so.

[Bozo]

I'm sorry, I made a mistake when typing my post, I meant AoE en-damage not spike spells from Scholar.

[Not Kuno]

I'm sorry, I made a mistake when typing my post, I meant AoE en-damage not spike spells from Scholar.

Can't blood weapon and enspell.