Last Remnant | Remastered (PS4/NSW)

[Kaylia]

ATB is real time. Just because you don't think it is doesn't mean other people don't.

Charismatic pretty much covered everything I would have said. Active time battle gameplay is usually segmented to a point it's ridiculous to talk about "real time".


Real time: Character reacts in real time to your input (very short delay between the button press and reaction)
Hybrid game: The input are executed in a timeline defined by the game. Some part are real time, other turn based
turn based Time is never a factor. Every one take their turn and their action never overlap.

[Elcura]

I agree with Kaylia/Charismatic on this one. The closest ATB ever got to real time was FFX-2.

[BRP]

My reasoning is that you are defining what is real-time(or what is not real-time) with the definition of a turn. I am saying it is possible for turns to be dealt with in real-time(game does not pause in between turns, but turns restrict activity to the person who turn it is. In FF games case this would be the action itself).

I still don't agree with you, but there really isn't a point on arguing with it since it is hardly related. But I will pick at one point, menus cutting away from real-time doesn't really change the genre at all. Off the top of my head, you can't say something like Mass Effect isn't real-time because you can go into a menu that pauses the game in order to direct your allies.

[Charismatic]

If you're doing combat actions (such as giving orders) while the game is 'paused' I can not see how you could consider that part real-time.
It just doesn't add up.

I'd go as far as to retract my original statement and say hybrid games instead of real-time since I don't think I've actually played an RPG that was 100% real-time combat.

[Kiarax]

If you're doing combat actions (such as giving orders) while the game is 'paused' I can not see how you could consider that part real-time.
It just doesn't add up.

I'd go as far as to retract my original statement and say hybrid games instead of real-time since I don't think I've actually played an RPG that was 100% real-time combat.

Infinite Undiscovery is 100% real-time. Using potions has never been so hard.

[Kuya]

KH and .Hack//GU were real time? Y/N? What i don't get is how does the game being a hybrid if not real time, change the fact that turn based sucks most of the time now?

Also Active was here, Wait is for scrubs.

[Kiarax]

KH and .Hack//GU were real time? Y/N? What i don't get is how does the game being a hybrid if not real time, change the fact that turn based sucks most of the time now?

Haven't played .hack, but Kingdom Hearts is definately all real time.

[Haiko]

.hack is almost the same style as KH so yeah its real time

[Kaylia]

My reasoning is that you are defining what is real-time(or what is not real-time) with the definition of a turn. I am saying it is possible for turns to be dealt with in real-time(game does not pause in between turns, but turns restrict activity to the person who turn it is. In FF games case this would be the action itself).

You can say whatever you want, but the word "real time" in video game was always associated with the reaction time between command input and the action on the screen. When you press "A button" or the "keypad", your character will do something. In ATB system, your command are chained (ie: you can do 3 input, then wait for the game to sort everything), and after every inputs, there is a long delay where your character do nothing but bend over and take it in the ass.

[Rokku]

I don't really want to jump too far into the Turn Based versus Active battle systems used in different games, but I will say that after an entire childhood starting with games like the original Final Fantasy on the NES, turn based RPGs seem to grind on my nerves. I can still tolerate the good ones, but, back when, an RPG was an RPG, it was all turn based and we all loved it. I kind of like the newer hybrid RPGs, and I've always been a fan of SRPGs.

Anyhow, on the topic of the game, whatever happened to their old plan to have the 360 and PS3 versions have different main characters and whatnot? And why is there still no release date for the PS3 version? /sadface

[Semitry]

Trailer for TGS

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40828.html

[Julian]

Looks kinda eh, could go either way very easily.

[Kiarax]

Gameplay looks like it could be great, not sure about the characters and voice acting though, some of them sound nothing like you'd think from their appearance imo. Looking forward to this more than I was before watching that now though.

[Resin]

Yeah, this seems like a must-buy for me, as an RPG fan and only owning a PS3. Hopefully S-E won't dissapoint. Now they just need to get it fixed so they can release it already! ><

[Exoduso]

It's hard to say what the gameplay will be like... I just hope it's not as close to IU as I think it will be... IU was fun and all, but it was mainly mashing buttons.

[Tekki]

1up preview writeup: The Last Remnant New Impressions Preview

Apparently famitsu gave it a 38/40...

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171265

I'm really pumped for this game

[Kais]

I think I heard something about GI giving it a 7/10; complaining it was grind-heavy.
I don't mind either way, I hope the gameplay is awesome

[Kyo]

Really want this game to not suck.

[Hyan]

That 1up preview sounded horrible... I don't even like fallout, but if SE is moving towards that type of RPG... it's gonna mean bad times for me!

[Kyo]

That 1up preview sounded horrible... I don't even like fallout, but if SE is moving towards that type of RPG... it's gonna mean bad times for me!

Doesnt sound anything like fallout 3 ;x