Weaponshill accuracy on the hachiman set:

[heartslaught]

I could rip apart mobs with sam/rng in mire with a proper sidewinder build at 70. My question is, the only pieces I would be lacking there (minus the lvl 71+ pieces that I already have) are those of the hachiman set. While I normally would never even touch the majority of this set (outside the hands), if the weaponskill accuracy of this set even worth considering (outside of the head piece, I do at least have ohat and I know that's immediately better) for a sam/rng sidewinder build?

[The_OG_Nelta]

no.

[Ohaigaiz]

Since when do people sam/rng?

[Cream Soda]

Sam/war use this
Tomoe - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

[Starr]

Sam/war use this
Tomoe - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

I'd like to see a Lev Couse SAM/WAR vs a SAM/RNG Yoichi, wonder what would win

[Tsuko_Asura]

I'd wager the Yoichi, purely by virtue of never having anything look in their direction.

[Pikarya]

Since when do people sam/rng?

I remember SAM/RNG in like 04/05. Felt good man.

[Ohaigaiz]

I remember SAM/RNG in like 04/05. Felt good man.

I know, shits old. Rng nerf made me cry. Used to be so epic for dd sam/rng+soboro

[GuntarHolyFlame]

I like to bust out the SAM/RNG against birds now and then. I used to use Hachiman Domaru for Sidewinder, until I got Kirin's Osode.

I still pop on the Hachiman Hakama and Hachiman Sune-ate, but I would prefer to use the following:

Legs
Dusk Trousers (+10 r.acc) > Amir Dirs (+4 r.acc +4 r.atk)

Feet
Hachiryu Sune-ate (+10 AGI) > Askar Gambieras (+3 STR +3 AGI) | Enkidu's Leggings (+3 AGI +4 r.atk)

Obviously the Hachiman Jinpachi is trumped by an Optical Hat or Enkidu's Cap, and Hachiman Kote has little to nothing to offer for a Sidewinder setup. Seiryu's Kote is king for the hands slot.

[Wakabo]

Weaponshill?

[Zilong]

I'd wager the Yoichi, purely by virtue of never having anything look in their direction.

And using weaker weaponskill that get RATK penalized by not being in the sweet spot?

FFS people, it's a fucking colibri, who cares if it's attacking you, they have lifespan of 10-15 seconds top to begin with.

[ringthree]

Sam/war use this
Tomoe - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

At level 70? Accuracy would be pretty low.

[Starr]

And using weaker weaponskill that get RATK penalized by not being in the sweet spot?

FFS people, it's a fucking colibri, who cares if it's attacking you, they have lifespan of 10-15 seconds top to begin with.

I too was leaning towards the Polearm, but make that Tomoe rather than Lev Couse.

[SamanosukeShiva]

unless namas/sidewinder from sam/rng/war can break 2k everytime, yoichi sam/rng wont win vs polearm sam, assuming both are fully meritted.

soboro already lose on the DoT department.

polearm TP gain with the right STP gear is on par with soboro, if you add samurai roll, will be even faster tp gain than soboro.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Who was talking about Nyzul? Northern Mamool or bust.

EDIT: Or SAM/RNG?

[Zilong]

Using either Tomoe or Yoichinoyumi in the fucking mamool camp means that you're fucking retarded, no exceptions.

[SamanosukeShiva]

i use tomoe @mamool actually, still beats the hell out of gk. polearm merits ofc

[Zilong]

I'm gonna go on a limb and assume you have 8/8 polearm and 0/8 GKT

In any case, my point still stands.

[Tsuko_Asura]

What's retarded about using a pretty solid weapon skill against potentially dangerous targets that won't give you a second glance because of said weapon skill, moreso when the limiting factor at said camp is generally, "how balls to the wall can I go without dying and/or slowing down my party?". I'm not trying to say Skoffin and Infiltrators are ruthless killing machines(well, I suppose technically that's what they're made to be..), but unless you're being powerleveled, you can't reliably ride Hasso and Berserk and expect a Fang Rush to be forgiving.

Having things not give a damn you're there for reasons other than lack of notable participation is a powerful edge.