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    RDM Gear for Maat Fight.

    I am closing in on RDM 75 now, with only one obstacle in my way. An old man.

    On RDM, I always like to gear myself to the best of my resources/ability. I have put together some gearsets to use against Maat and just wanted some input/constructive criticism.

    I still have a few vague questions in my head, for nuking which should I focus on more? from basic intuition I would guess at Elemental Skill > INT > Mag.Atk. Bonus in situations where nukes have a moderate-high chance of getting resisted, from the reasoning one unresisted less-powerful nuke will do more than one resisted more-powerful nuke. (If that makes sense)

    Spoilered due to fairly large image;

    As far as money goes I have already got Pluto's/Auster's/Aquilo's and only need Terra's to complete the useful set for RDM. After that I need to farm only 1.4mil for the rest, possibly less than 1m if I avoid a few HQ's (Rings etc) I am hoping to get lucky on a few Under Observation orbs for some of this (over 160 seals atm).

    Thoughts?

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    I'm kinda confused as to what you are asking exactly but for Maat fight it's heavily race-dependant on how you should gear and wheter you plan on beating the old man with meds or with just pure skill/luck. You're a mithra based on RSE gear in picture so you have a slight natural advantage in having decent natural MP pool and INT. Remember you lose your subjob, for me as elvaan all those years ago the biggest shock was the loss of MP so after a failed attempt at 69 where I just timed out from all the resting I had to do I waited till 70 and went in with Rolanberry pie, Forest rope and as much RSE2 and other +MP gear as possible without completely sacrificing INT, this was back before any Cobra gear existed and only like three people anywhere owned HQ staves (2004, most standard players didn't even have NQ staves lol and Maat was beaten with a +INT wand). Maat's not a terribly hard target to nuke when you consider that hordes of RDMs have done the fight before you with a lot shittier gear selection available, the current gears you posted all look fine to me. Most important thing above any gear you wear is that you keep a cool head and don't panic. Do not forget to use gravity/bind/sleeps sensibly, especially if you're doing the fight without meds and need to rest MP before CS/convert and keep yourself buffed.

    If you just plan on going in and CS nuking his ass with Aero III while spamming Ethers and Vile Elixirs you can pretty much do it naked.

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    I think you're overthinking this fight. :b I mean, that's a good thing in a way, but remember that this is a fight that's supposed to be beatable by the masses, and while scrutinizing yourself is good, there's really no need to for this fight (as I said in the Random Question thread, I had a very limited understanding of the game when I did the Maat fight and still did okay aside from dumb mistakes). I'd say you could drop the Glamor Jupon in your nuking set in favor of an INT body, I didn't have any trouble landing nukes with just my pimp hat and Elemental Torque. As Vigilia said, the most important thing is to not panic. The second most important, in my opinion, is to run up to Maat as soon as you enter and Sleep him before he has a chance to buff himself (Blink is what you really want to avoid).

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    Thanks was basically asking whether or not I should focus on INT in every slot, or Elemental Skill. But it seems the more people I ask, as long as I do everything right, and I don't get unlucky with full sleep resist then I will be fine.

    I am leaning towards the fullout CS strategy at the moment. Where I go in, buff up. Then Sleep him and dispel, rest to full, pop CS and Aero 3 down to enough MP for a Sleep II & Sleep I in case of resist. But then I'm not sure whether to stock up on Hi Pot+3's and spam them after convert, or whether it would be more efficient with my CS time just to spam Ethers (do they have the same 1second 'use-time' as Hi pots?)

    I just want to be prepared given that RDM Maat is considered the hardest by most people.

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    The only med I used was a Vile Elixir +1 because I wanted to minimize the amount of time available for him to fuck my shit up, lol.

    Edit: Make sure to be ready to sleep him when he uses Chainspell, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenbroya View Post
    Where I go in, buff up. Then Sleep him and dispel, rest to full, pop CS and Aero 3 down to enough MP for a Sleep II & Sleep I in case of resist.
    Go in, but don't buff where you enter, buff at the arena edge so you see what Maat is doing. Like mentioned above if he gets blink up before you see what he's doing that can fuck you up a bit. Other than that, best of luck with the fight!

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    If you have an enfeebling torque, AF1, Pluto's Staff, and capped magical skills, you have a 95% chance of winning. No you don't need all that, but it helps.

    You need some playing ability too, but that's on you.

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    Your gear looks fine.

    It's all pretty much based on luck and a little skill now. I'd suggest practicing the fight and all your macros beforehand, regardless of if you choose the sleep/nuke or the CS nuke method. I personally like the sleep/nuke way - it seems a little bit more controlled, but I have plenty of friends that did it the faster CS nuke way.

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    Buff up.
    Open with your best nuke. Always cast at maximum distance.
    Sleep.
    Dispel, Silence (if you can) him.
    Nuke
    Bind
    Nuke
    Sleep
    Repeat, throw in a Convert somewhere.
    ???
    Profit

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    Don't forget to utilize mob AI. Remember that caster type mobs cast at regular intervals and upon aggro if their casting round is up. This means don't pull him immediately after he casts a buff as he won't be able to cast yet and close with you instead and start pummeling the crap out of you.

    Point being, aggro him ~15 seconds (not sure on this time. I'm sure you can find mob casting intervals somewhere. They're pretty standard across the board) after he casts to ensure that he starts by casting rather than running (buying you time) and then sleep/bind/gravity him before he can close on you. Or if you open with CS, you can probably use his initial casting time to nuke him till he starts his own CS, which is probably safer than him coming after you.

    Same goes for waking him up. If you do it too quickly, his casting round won't be up and he'll come straight for you. If you give him enough ZzZz time though, then he'll open with a spell again. You want to keep him casting rather than swinging as the worst thing he can cast on you is probably Paralyze, which isn't as bad as Asuran Fists.

    For my own Maat fight, I used the XP scroll trick (go in at 69 with <500 tnl with an escort XP scroll), borrowed Enfeebling Torque and HQ Staves and won on my first try without a single resist.

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    I remember doing this in late 2004 or 2005 (so long ago;; ) I borrowed NQ staves and the rest of my gear was pretty NQ too. If you go in with gear like that I doubt you will get many (if any) resists on sleep or nukes. The rest is just skill/tactics that matter, like mentioned here already, when you go in go straight to the edge of the arena so you can see what he buffs with. Things like Shell/Blink/Stoneskin/Phalanx can fuck you up bad or at least make it much more difficult. The cast timer trick is also a good one though when you stand at max casting range a sleep1 will for sure fire off before he gets into melee range.

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    With a gear as good as yours at your level, the best treat you can do to yourself is enter the fight on Darksday. It'll help more than everything else I guess.

    Rush him at start to avoid massive buffing (especially blink) is a good idea too. You can always buff yourself while he's taking a nap and you save some mp.


    Remember there is always a possiblity Maat will resist both your Sleep 1 and 2 and Asuran First back to back you ass while you try to Bind him. Suck it up and try again ^^

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    Do not under ANY circumstance silence him.
    Him stopping to cast on you is the best thing that can happen, it buys you a lot of time.
    If he is silenced, he'll always try to run up and beat on you, and he cheats (always seem to have tp).

    As many have said before, keep your distance, stay buffed.

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    Major overthinking for this fight. I beat it waaaay back when in full AF and a borrowed wind staff.

    Go in
    SLeep 2
    Stoneskin + phalanx
    Dispel till shell is gone
    Chainspell aero 3 till you have enough mp to sleep 2 again
    Sleep 2
    Convert
    Cure IV x2
    stoneskin
    spam aero 3 till he dies

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjafox View Post
    Major overthinking for this fight. I beat it waaaay back when in full AF and a borrowed wind staff.

    Go in
    SLeep 2
    Stoneskin + phalanx
    Dispel till shell is gone
    Chainspell aero 3 till you have enough mp to sleep 2 again
    Sleep 2
    Convert
    Cure IV x2
    stoneskin
    spam aero 3 till he dies
    This. Sick of seeing people whine about RDM Maat, it's some of the easiest shit in the world if you just rush it.

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    Or, you could just do it the way I did.

    Enter
    Sleep2
    Buff up
    Draw sword
    Beat him down like the old man he is

    Just sleep him when he chainspells and reapply your buffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    This. Sick of seeing people whine about RDM Maat, it's some of the easiest shit in the world if you just rush it.
    Personally, I'm tired of people having the, "I did it on the first try, therefore anyone who doesn't, sucks" attitude of the typical forum jackasses.

    Shit happens. Luck is an enormous factor in all Maat fights. You can have a Plutos, capped Enfeebling, Enfeebling torque and sleep can still get resisted. Your nukes can get resisted. He can decide to use Asuran Fists or Shoulder Tackle, etc, etc...

    None of this is controllable by the player, no matter how skilled they are.

    Thank god I fought him as bst. Now that's actually some easy shit.. . lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlakLanner View Post
    Or, you could just do it the way I did.

    Enter
    Sleep2
    Buff up
    Draw sword
    Beat him down like the old man he is

    Just sleep him when he chainspells and reapply your buffs.
    Were you 75? Back to back (like 1 second apart) Asuran's for 650 a piece were a bit rough on me. I lost my fight because he actually was intelligent and cast Paralyze right after chainspell.

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    That's why I lost a fight as well, due to being paralyzed out of meds and convert... Rdm Maat is really random, you can't just say he's easy if you rush it because if you fumble and make a mistake chances are you'll be taking a few Asurans to the face. That paralyze on that run caused me to lose but on my win he casts... Fire II and Aquaveil. /shrug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer View Post
    Were you 75? Back to back (like 1 second apart) Asuran's for 650 a piece were a bit rough on me. I lost my fight because he actually was intelligent and cast Paralyze right after chainspell.
    No, I was 70. Phalanx/Stoneskin takes a good bite out of the damage Asuran does to you. I managed to survive back-to-back Asurans when I did it (A third would have beaten me). As for the paralyze right on chainspell, that is the luck factor that still exists in the fight.

    I only mentioned my method because it is very often overlooked, especially since newer RDMs probably have never even gripped a sword in their careers beyond level 10 or so.

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