AV video solved? - Torque Theory Only

[Flight_93]

Guys they work for Famitsu-- they've got Flame Bracers and beat PW when noone's around.. this is obviously legit.

[Raineer]

Guys they work for Famitsu-- they've got Flame Bracers and beat PW when noone's around.. this is obviously legit.

Eh... I'm all for the skepticism, but Priceless might as well have written FFXI for as well as their members know and play the game.

edit: That being said, I was bored enough to bug Suteki in-game. They have not figured out how to kill PW yet.

[Omnipotent]

This solution is simple. AV still drops item when CFH'd!. Do a server wide kill. Gather everyone on the server, like 2k. CFH and all just mad rush it.... ITS FOOL PROOF!!!!!

[Seraph]

I'll be so disappointed if this is how it actually works. Even though the pop items are 100%, defeating the mob is still based on rare drops AND certain jobs possessing those drops? Lame.

/sigh

[Spira]

the theory seems perfectly sound.
when everyone considered the 2hr to seal theory no one seemed to consider the possibility that it's not 100%, or at least that the torques would augment this process. It makes sense as well that it links back to the jobs on weapons having 1 piece for each pre ToA job...
that the torques have poor drop rates doesn't help this.. its a pity that torques are not visibly known in the AV strat video.

Seeing as how JoL-AV is a 2hr fight, it seems like a safe assumption to say that if you succeed in locking down a 2hr (torque or otherwise, but assuming with torque it works 100%) then it remains sealed for the rest of the fight.. since u can only do this once (not considering Wild Card).

As for bracelets mode, it seems like something that people would just have to deal with if they manage to lock down all his relevant 2hrs since he'd be a whole lot easier to manage at that point.. and they'd still want to step up his difficulty in some way.
I wouldn't look too much into the PUP thing added to the staff... and especially not when Overdrive and Bracelets have no link whatsoever.

[Vajra]

Here's video link if anyone wants to watch it again: Absolute Virtue/Developer Strategy - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki, torques idea seems like a good idea, just need someone to test it :D

[Shalyn]

It would make sense.. Make sure you have a bunch of different jobs in the alliance, make sure everyone has spent a ridiculous amount of time getting all of the torques/weapons, ???, profit.. Also making AV no more than a "Two hour fight"... *facepalm*

[rog]

this seriously has never been tested before? o.o

[Ramses]

this seriously has never been tested before? o.o

Think about it. How many whms and blms would be wearing a prudence torque?

[Sho]

Jesus Fucking Christ Close the Pool for Epic.

Just wanted to say it.

[astura]

(just summarizing and organizing thoughts)
7 weapons/7 torques/7 stats 15(16 with pup) jobs.

3 inside jailers:

fort (vit/ga/sword/war/drk)
faith (mnd/hth/marks/mnk/nin)
temp (chr/axe/staff/bst/rng)

3 outside jailers:

prudence (int/gs/club/whm/blm)
justice (str/sythe/gk/rdm/thf/pld)
hope (agi/kat/arch/brd/smn/pup)

final:

Jol (dex/dagger/Polearm/drg/sam)

Way stats are listed (top to bottom):

str(chainspell/perfect dodge /invicible)
dex (call wyvern/meikyo shisui)
vit (Mighty strikes/blood weapon)
agi (soul voice/astral flow)
int (benidiction/manafont)
mnd (mijin gaukre/hundred first)
chr (eagle eye shot/familar or charm)

all 15 2hours accounted for then if you go off that.

[Izzy]

Think about it. How many whms and blms would be wearing a prudence torque?

I always wear one Q_Q

[Vajra]

In the video it's easy to see SE was using god mode, (infinite 2hrs or reset mechanisms). Also obvious that they were trying to match 2hrs (they had one of every job that corresponds to AV's dangerous 2hrs). They all just used their 2hrs (with infinite reset) when he used his, hoping that one person would use one that matches it(but when we do it we have to do it strategically kinda like watching chatlog when to stun in a stun order because we wont have infinite 2hrs). SE basically wanted us to figure out the rest ourselves though (torques having hidden effect: 2hr lock success rate boost).

EXAMPLE FROM VIDEO

Spoiler: show

Absolute Virtue readies Chainspell.

Camera zooms in

Ronana starts casting Sleep II on Absolute Virtue.
Houjuhkye starts casting Cure II on Ronana.
Mukopekko starts casting Haste on Yanono.
Ronana casts Cure IV.
Arefelie recovers 200 HP.
Elmaulle casts Cure IV.
Arefelie recovers 386 HP.
Akiki casts Cure III.
Arefelie recovers 0 HP.
Absolute Virtue starts casting Aero V.
Absolute Virtue uses Chainspell.
Popumyonmapu uses Manafont.
Oruu casts Stoneskin.
Oruu gains the effect of Stoneskin.
Hina uses Soul Voice.
Chakiki uses Chainspell.
Absolute Virtue starts casting Aeroga IV.(he only casts this during chainspell, so it's safe to say that it doesn't negate the 2hr, only locks it, so he cant use them a second time (I've fought AV plenty of times so I already know he uses them multiple times))

[ZhanAsura]

Think about it. How many whms and blms would be wearing a prudence torque?

You say that like Prudence torque does nothing for a blm...

[Deader2818]

I highly doubt a BLM will be using +5 INT over +7 elemental skill on an HNM like AV. >.>

[Vajra]

mnd (mijin gaukre)

AV dont use Mijin Gakure, well atleast I dont remember him using it.

[Neosutra]

Here's video link if anyone wants to watch it again: Absolute Virtue/Developer Strategy - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki, torques idea seems like a good idea, just need someone to test it :D

Reviewing the video again, shows that after every 2 hour (regardles of which it was), several of the people used theirs (specifically the blm, the rdm, and the brd). I assume SE reset their 2 hours to just reinforce this, or did a few different takes at it, so we would get the memo.

Seems that it isnt just "match your 2 hour with his", but rather when he uses a 2 hour, there is a short window in which you can lock his other 2 hours by using the player 2 hours (perhaps with torque equiped?).

Is it 100 chance? Correlation of torque based on the labeling of the jailer weapons? Do you have to match 2 hour, or just any 2 hour?

Seems like simple things to test. Have 2 JoLs this sat, will try them out.

[Ramses]

I always wear one Q_Q

While matching AV's benediction? You dd whms are rare enough for me not to have to add that exception to my point. But I think you should go club AV and benediction when he does and take lots of screenshots.

[Yvonne]

(just summarizing and organizing thoughts)
7 weapons/7 torques/7 stats 15(16 with pup) jobs.

3 inside jailers:

fort (vit/ga/sword/war/drk)
faith (mnd/hth/marks/mnk/nin)
temp (chr/axe/staff/bst/rng)

3 outside jailers:

prudence (int/gs/club/whm/blm)
justice (str/sythe/gk/rdm/thf/pld)
hope (agi/kat/arch/brd/smn/pup)

final:

Jol (dex/dagger/Polearm/drg/sam)

Way stats are listed (top to bottom):

str(chainspell/perfect dodge /invicible)
dex (call wyvern/meikyo shisui)
vit (Mighty strikes/blood weapon)
agi (soul voice/astral flow)
int (benidiction/manafont)
mnd (mijin gaukre/hundred first)
chr (eagle eye shot/familar or charm)

all 15 2hours accounted for then if you go off that.

Hot damn, this is starting to make a whole lotta sense now.

[euph]

also if you remember they said they would release an item to enfeeble AV. Perhaps it was a hint that there was something you had to use in conjunction with the 2hr or perhaps im just talking out of my asshole