He is kinda right, my friend and I did that stuff all the time. EX: x2 bst go in sacrarium. Both spam charm at an IT heceye, once one gets it familiars, attacks a seperate eye until the remaining bst gets it, then he familiars bam x2 IT heceyes etc... anyhow. just saying
Good, go do it , Zelduh.
Nice avoid on your argument being directed at Trixi but you saying it to me btw
Also, I know you CAN but since my first post I've been saying that you can't ALWAYS. Yet you keep going, if you agree with that part, stfu and stop with derailing
You're trying to pursuade me with your ideas of lving BST at lv 1 by charming colibris, man up and do as you say.
Last post I'm making about this , ruining a perfectly good thread with this nonsense.
I'd say it mostly depends the ratio you trade accuracy for evasion. If it's 1:1 I'd say it will be pretty useless for solo/eva tanking (except as an oh-shit button), as the stuff I have a hard time dodging is the same stuff I have a hard time hitting. If it's a 2:1 gain or better it could be pretty good.
As for tanking HNM type stuff I'm not excited about this ability. Generating enmity isn't the issue with nin/drk compared to pld/nin, it's the lower survivability, requirement of more support/healing, and lack of a way to deal any real damage like atonement.
You're a fucking idiot. Learn about fucking game mechanics. This is advanced, isn't it? Act like you know anything about the game. Anything that isn't immune to charm can be charmed by anyone with charm. This may be shocking to you: A level 11 RDM can land bind on Kirin, too!
Now shut the fuck up.
You can maybe spam the elemental wheel with the addition of increase ninja tool expertise and enfeeble the mob with ninjustu instead of pure atonement (what does a decent geared NIN do on high level mobs WS damage wise?) Could be some welcome damage and ultimately cheaper.
I still think my NIN is staying at 37. Will be interesting to see though.
I agree. I see the concept of tanking v attacking, but if I recall correctly, unless you're sub RDM or sub DRK, isn't the point of NIN tanking to tank by DDing?
The way I saw NIN tanking was:
Lesser mobs: Use DMG to tank
HNM type mobs: Use sub RDM or sub DRK to tank
This update basically has the potential to return NINs to the frontlines. However, for lesser mobs, if you need to hit from behind to get the DMG bonus, you're not really tanking. I guess it might help those NINs XPing on Colibri that cannot keep hate off their BRDs. Keep attacking from behind until you get hate! Depending on the damage increase, having two NINs (So at least one has the effect of the Crit bonus effects) may mean better hate bounce.
Probably been said before in this thread, but you need to know the numbers before you declare this as useless or game-breaking.
There are a lot of very cool concepts in FFXI ruined by poor numbers being given to them. Ambush was a great example someone mentioned as nice concept but poor in practice due to numbers. Sentinel changes would be a good example of the opposite.
I know the whole point of this thread is speculation but you have to see the numbers to really know if these are use-ful/less or not.
Ninja will be the de facto tank of things that don't turn to face people.
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Owned. Now do us all a favor and promptly go kill yourself.