Version Update Sneak Peek (07/17/2009)

[Yugl]

Pizza > Meat build anyways though right?

[Knyghtmayre]

Depends on what you're doing, really. Pizza is useless for birds and anything where you're capped on accuracy. I'm really not getting into the whole 'eat pizza and use shitty gear or eat meat and use the gear you worked for' debate in this thread though, since that's not really the point, at all. The point is making useless dishes into something useful is great for anyone that's tired of spamming kabobs/pot-au-feu/jack-o-lanterns/hedgehog pies.

[ringthree]

Depends on what you're doing, really. Pizza is useless for birds and anything where you're capped on accuracy. I'm really not getting into the whole 'eat pizza and use shitty gear or eat meat and use the gear you worked for' debate in this thread though, since that's not really the point, at all. The point is making useless dishes into something useful is great for anyone that's tired of spamming kabobs/pot-au-feu/jack-o-lanterns/hedgehog pies.

I will. Pizza is great for anything above birds even with good gear.

[Tempyst]

'eat pizza and use shitty gear or eat meat and use the gear you worked for'

or you can eat pizza and use the gear you worked for

I remember when people made the same short sighted arguments about sushi and went on for pages about how hard they worked for their sniper rings

[Knyghtmayre]

I'm not saying pizza doesn't have its uses, I'm saying that meat still does. Use whatever the situation calls for. I just want more recipes to make (that people will actually buy) so that I can stop making the same 4 things that everyone already spams.

[Belgaer]

When are people going to learn that there's one universal answer in Vana'diel? "Shit is situational." xD

[Arthars]

shit is situational

drama is dorp

gimps win bonanza

3 rule in ffxi

[chiyio]

Yes, let's give a damage type that gets 25% boost to more enemies than the other 2 melee damage combined even more boost.

On an related note, SAM does seem not overpowered as it used to be, maybe they should fix that too.

Of all the mobs that are weak to daggers, how many of them are actually fought?
Bees, Bat Trios, Rocs, Birds, Colibri, Flies, Giant Bats, Imps, Ladybugs, Mandragoras, Puks

No one xp's on Bees, between Pollen and Final Sting
Bat Trios are avoided due to constant shitty aoe debuffs
Rocs, well the only viable camp were Abraxas, and how popular was that?
Birds are only really xped on at Bibiki Bay, and thats died off.
Flies are generally not xped on, other than shitty merit pt's in Caedarva.
Giant Bats arent XP camp friendly, but no problems with them.
Other than the Ladybugs pulled in Ronfaure, have you ever xped on them in Jugner or La Vaule? I havent.
Mandragoras, same as giant bats.

So: Colibri and Imps, and stretching with Puks, only because theyre a shitty mob and youre either forced into them at MMJSP or bridging a 60 to 63 gap without many other good camps (I'd rather overhunt Colibri than properly hunt Puks).


Of course, this all is moot considering you are a SAM main, and are used to SE catering to you.

[Bakthi]

No one xp's on Bees, between Pollen and Final Sting

Oh, but it's so entertaining. Okay, Pollen is frustrating, but my last party on PLD included COR SAM SAM SAM SAM with outside healing, and sadly the leypoint was taken, so we camped at the spot near the hives, which only has about 7 birds. To keep the exp/chains going, we'd sometimes have to pull a bee or two. Final Sting demolished our COR RNG once, but usually just left whoever it was with double-digit HP. But yeah, generally nobody is going to grab them on purpose.

Birds are only really xped on at Bibiki Bay, and thats died off.

Don't forget about Marsh Murres, which are the same level as Lesser Colibri. Their TP moves hurt more, and sometimes BSTs will be exping on them, but you do get to use food and your tank gets to WS.

I also recently did a SCH WHM SAM SAM DRG THF party in sky. We'd mostly kill birds, and go get another FoV and pull 3 pots whenever the day changed. Worked pretty well, in case you feel like changing it up or all the colibri camps are packed.

Finally, let's not forget that MMM exp/merits is typically set up to produce piercing-weak mobs.

[Seraphus]

Rocs, well the only viable camp were Abraxas, and how popular was that?

Pretty god damn popular for it's time, tbh.

[Starr]

Y'all gonna get dicked with gimp stat Campaign bodies tomorrow!

[Rocl]

Pretty god damn popular for it's time, tbh.

Yeah I remember it being the place to be >_> We called them "THF burn" PTs, since you went to sky for WARburns.