Absolute Virtue Information (OP Updated)

[Linsivi]

Ok so given that information, if you can zerg AV in under a minute, you win!

[Virtuous Saint]

Are you certain the right course of action is to just deal with meteor as you are trying, and not try a few attempts to mess with 2 specific possibilities along this line of thinking?

Quick questions, if you know the answer:
1. If it has access to 2 2hrs from different groups as you said (say CS + Mighty Strikes) will it use neither? Will it use both, then not repeat? Will it just use 1, then never use the 2nd?
2. Following that, if it uses just 1, and not the other, then perhaps it has to complete a full sequence in order to repeat, so you'd need to pick a full group to leave unlocked, rather than 2/3.
3. If it uses both, maybe its 2hr use is no longer random at all, but does each group in a sequence, and if it fails to access 1 group at all, it stops, so leaving 1 up from each group could still buy this leniency time.

It won't use either 2hr. I'm gonna be honest even if you were able to get it to do Mighty Strikes > Hundred Fists separately which you can't once it is in bracelets mode, it really wouldn't help you that much. If just 1 meteor hits your alliance it will fall apart, literally basically every single person will die even if 10 people are hit, and all tanks will either be dead or nearly dead, ours took around 1000-1300dmg with 10 people hit.

Really if there is no way to weaken or lock bracelets meteor the only viable option I can come up with is taking it to the main entrance ramp asap, locking necessary 2hrs, regen, and fighting it down as fast as possible.

Tanks would obviously be below the very top portion of the ramp tanking AV while an absorb party of best possible geared RDM/SMNs would have carbuncles out to have more absorbers with less numbers of actual people needed, and they would be positioned within 25 distance of all tanks at all times. These absorbers would never get on hate list so a SCH or 2 could Accession CureIV them immediately following every single meteor while the RDMs resummon and rebuff. Even doing all of this you are looking at not a lot of time to take AV out, the simple fact is SE placed an impractical time limit on this mob with no thought apparently.

[Virtuous Saint]

Ok so given that information, if you can zerg AV in under a minute, you win!

Imo the best thing to do, if you had like a team-up of lss on AV to zerg it would be to take it to 60% exactly after having locked regen and all 2hrs except say Mighty Strikes and Blood Weapon. Once it is at that point you simply eliminate that alliance ect., and keep AV from resting a tick of HP (e.g. someone aggros within 10sec of deaggro constantly), while the zerg is being setup. You might need to have zerg>zerg tho as the first zerg might not completely kill it, but that would require a team up of lss at least. Idk I am sure something like this would work, it's just about having that many people at your disposal, and having organization that good.

The zerg should go exactly when it uses Mighty Strikes if possible because AV doesn't bring bracelets out while a 2hr is active on it, and it wouldn't be able to cast or WS during the zerg, only attack.

[Ermac]

Here is a fairly recent log to help clear any information reguarding Av's 2 hour usage.

[17:47:54]Absolute Virtue uses Call Wyvern.
[17:49:33]Absolute Virtue uses Hundred Fists.
[17:51:15]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[17:52:33]Absolute Virtue uses Call Wyvern.
[17:54:12]Absolute Virtue uses Chainspell.
[17:56:00]Absolute Virtue uses Call Wyvern.
[17:57:54]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[17:59:30]Absolute Virtue uses Call Wyvern.
[18:01:34]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:03:14]Absolute Virtue uses Call Wyvern.
[18:04:06]Absolute Virtue uses Blood Weapon.
[18:05:34]Absolute Virtue uses Meikyo Shisui.
[18:06:58]Absolute Virtue uses Benediction.
[18:07:52]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:10:32]Absolute Virtue uses Call Wyvern.
[18:11:25]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:13:49]Absolute Virtue uses Soul Voice.
[18:17:17]Absolute Virtue uses Invincible.
[18:18:36]Absolute Virtue uses Manafont.
[18:20:28]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:22:01]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:23:19]Absolute Virtue uses Invincible.
[18:28:31]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:29:48]Absolute Virtue uses Invincible.
[18:31:05]Absolute Virtue uses Benediction.
[18:32:00]Absolute Virtue uses Eagle Eye Shot.
[18:32:55]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:34:37]Absolute Virtue uses Benediction.
[18:35:26]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:36:48]Absolute Virtue uses Invincible.
[18:38:09]Absolute Virtue uses Benediction.
[18:39:09]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:40:47]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:43:10]Absolute Virtue uses Blood Weapon.
[18:44:41]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:46:25]Absolute Virtue uses Eagle Eye Shot.
[18:47:24]Absolute Virtue uses Blood Weapon.
[18:48:50]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:51:03]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:52:35]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:54:59]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:56:37]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[18:58:05]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[18:59:48]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.
[19:01:05]Absolute Virtue uses Mighty Strikes.
[19:03:39]Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.

The end of the fight was interesting to see AV use back to back to back 2 hours.

The strat was
-nuking Av vs day
-having multi Drg's rotate call wyvren upon every AV 2 hour
-constantly keep the 3 aren's dead @ the Jol/AV spawn dead.

Our linkshell was able to reproduce the same behavior from this recorded log of 2 hours.

[Virtuous Saint]

Here is a fairly recent log to help clear any information reguarding Av's 2 hour usage.

The end of the fight was interesting to see AV use back to back to back 2 hours.

The strat was
-nuking Av vs day
-having multi Drg's rotate call wyvren upon every AV 2 hour
-constantly keep the 3 aren's dead @ the Jol/AV spawn dead.

Our linkshell was able to reproduce the same behavior with AV with this.

Wtf are you saying you only countered with Call Wyvern and had that result?

[Ermac]

I'd like to have 30+ people for AV so if we try again I'll do what I can to give as much info on AV

[Eanae]

Time to bring a drg army to AV (until SE labels it as not legit and patches it)?

[thetruepandagod]

Im confused as fuck unless he's just stating things wrong

[Ermac]

it was only 3 DRG's

Here is our Set up

Hack away if u like but this worked very nice for us

---------------
AV Alliance

Tank Party
PLD/NIN:
PLD/NIN:
WHM/SCH:
RDM/WHM:
BRD/WHM:
COR/WHM:

2nd Tank Party
RDM/NIN:
RDM/NIN:
RDM/NIN:
COR/WHM:
WHM/SCH:
BRD/WHM:

Backup PLD: Meat

Enfeeble AV Party 2 hour / Nuke Vs Day
DRG/WHM
DRG/WHM
DRG/WHM
BLM/WHM
BLM/WHM
BLM/WHM


------------------------------------------------------------------

Outside Party / Enfeeble AV Party / Killing Three Arens
WAR/NIN
DRK/NIN
SAM/THF
BRD/WHM
BRD/WHM
BLM/WHM

Outside Blm Members Party (Constantly rotate blm's into AV Party)
BLM/WHM
BLM/WHM
BLM/WHM
BLM/WHM

I know this may not seem like much but I will try to post as much info as I can in time.

[thetruepandagod]

so u locked 2hr's with call wyvern regardless of the 2hr?

and what has killing the aerns done if anything whatsoever?

[Ermac]

I'm not 100% sure we don't think you can "lock them" we think what u do to AV (Killing its Regen) helps lower the % chance of a certain 2 hour it will use. So in a way you can say you can lock it but all your doing is lower the % chance of every 2 hour on AV's list to use until the % is so slow it wont even proc.

This is somewhat speculation from our linkshell so >.>;

[thetruepandagod]

... what we just proved that you can in fact lock them.

[Yvonne]

I do have a JP buddy in PB, though I'm pretty sure lotta people are since he's a pretty known cook on Midgard.

I'll see what I can do when I find out about their next run.

[Ermac]

sorry I was not trying to disagree I guess I was more merly poining out how the 2 hours slowly wither away!

[Virtuous Saint]

sorry I was not trying to disagree I guess I was more merly poining out how the 2 hours slowly wither away!

No you can in fact lock them all tho, it isn't a lowering of % chance.

[Cairthenn]

So someone finally decided to post how to lock him? Quite surprised. OnEvent is very effective, good luck doing it manually. :3

Also, it's still quite a gruesome fight even with 2hrs locked so I wish those who attempt the kill good luck.

[sruon]

So someone finally decided to post how to lock him? Quite surprised. OnEvent is very effective, good luck doing it manually. :3

This.

[Ermac]

So someone finally decided to post how to lock him? Quite surprised. OnEvent is very effective, good luck doing it manually. :3

Also, it's still quite a gruesome fight even with 2hrs locked so I wish those who attempt the kill good luck.

For sure

[Enygma55]

Info and theories are usually thrown around that its hard to believe if anything is true unless they are tried and tested with absolute 100% certainty.

[Cairthenn]

Info and theories are usually thrown around that its hard to believe if anything is true unless they are tried and tested with absolute 100% certainty.

If you are saying this isn't how it works, it certainly is.