Of course Rhino. I hope your not about to call me one. And you may find this hard to believe but I have ZERO conservative friends. They're either liberals or "I'm a Marine so I'm gonna vote for McCain" type of informed people.
Of course Rhino. I hope your not about to call me one. And you may find this hard to believe but I have ZERO conservative friends. They're either liberals or "I'm a Marine so I'm gonna vote for McCain" type of informed people.
The bolded statements are true. I thought there might be more. But on a side note, just ranting and name calling for a whole post was actually a lot of fun! I'm always happy to debate the issues, but now I understand how fun it is to just call people names. We should do this more often. Still, at least I label liberals things that are true. And if you don't buy that, at least they are politically related.
No. I know you're not
how about an answer to the first question. Do you agree with what Frankenbeans is saying about liberals? Or would you say its a meatball thing to say. I mean he doesn't even flinch when called out upon that all hes doing is parroting right wing nut jobs.
Alright fair enough, thanks for the civility. I'll be polite and do the same.
In response to me not totally condemning the government, I could argue that you lack the balls to give government all control? Since when did things have to be black or white?(Lolracisim)
I do condemn government in 99.99% of all forms(Army, Roads, Police, the whole shibang-a-bang). A free market anarchist society can handle all these / other stereotypical "OMFG ANARCHY" issues just fine.
I advocate for a Minarchist (Not Microanarchist?) government out of practicality. I'd rather wean people / the market off its growing depenency on the Gov. VS just taking it away in one sweep.
That and the only thing in particular that I can't figure out is the enforcement of contracts without force in an Anarchist society, but I'm sure other anarchists can explain that one to me. That's really the only thing keeping me from hopping on to the Anarchy boat.
If this *is* the case, Republicans are somewhere in the middle right or just compleatly off the fucking chart in general(Where does corporatisim fit into the political spectrum lol?).
In an Anarchist society, the police enforce contracts. Not sure where you got that there's no force in Anarchism, but Anarchism essentially works by pay out of pocket systems.
I.e. a community needs police, so everyone pools together to pay people to be police officers.
Anarchism is really nothing different except that you pay all the taxes upfront instead of over-time. I honestly don't see the appeal.
Hmm, I didn't read it all and I'm not going to. I think there are 2 types of liberals. 99.999% of them are the honest kind. "It's a good thing if we help people who can't afford health care, therefor we should." Good intentions are what is important, which is fine, it's a valid position, but I do think some of the things Leif listed are the unintended consequences of liberal policies. Where I differ from Leif is that liberals intend the actual results. (Or what I think they are and we always debate.) .000001% are the other kind and can look at the facts and not give a shit, all they care about is power and creating that all important 51%, whereas my first category would look at the facts and want to fix govt.
So Leif think's there's malicious intent, I don't always agree. Now I didn't sit there and read everything he said so don't crucify me. And I'm not gonna get into the racist stuff etc etc.
Like telling people they can't have abortions, even in cases of incest and rape, telling people they can't get married if they're the same sex, telling people they can only get high, fat, medicated by power-hungry corporations that write FDA legislation. You realize we have LESS freedom under the current healthcare system, because we're financially imprisoned?
You and all the other conservatives had a horrible tendency to run with idealism and literalism ( i.e. 5000 year old earth, socialism bad, death panels) without looking at the facts. And the worst part is you're being instigated by the very people that would take advantage of you to get their way.
It's pathetic watching you guys get shut down when you're faced against a liberal in a debate, even your top guys that go on news networks get shut down repeatedly, which is why Billo has to shout guests down and cut mics.
So in your little fascist world you people get all bent out of shape due to various social phobias and want to control people and government with your view, not use the participation of citizens in government to make quality of life better. And don't say "leave it to the states," a state government is a government and it's retard rhetoric because you don't have a real solution, just regurgitated dribble from your favorite TV and radio hate mongerers.
All that and not one single thing of value. This is what reading your posts is like.
Obama said the money people will pay if they don't opt in to the government plan is not a tax. We also know people that don't pay that money will be jailed. So people won't be jailed for not paying their taxes, they will be jailed for going along with Obama's plan. How did it work in the U.S.S.R you went to the gulag or you got a bullet? So the only difference between Obama and Stalin is the degree of tyranny.
lol you called it.
I wooshed because swampy posted the same tinfoil hat shit as usual? Right, nice cover.
URINAL DICK RAPE
Oh americans, you do make me laugh. Ever heard the expression cutting off your nose to spite your face? That is this thread.