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  1. #21
    CoP Dynamis
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    Alexander

    TParty
    Spellcast
    Recast (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
    Yarnball

    Those 4 are the bare minimum

    Other ones would be like

    StatusTimer
    LightLuggage
    TimeStamp (Say what you will, I love this plugin)

  2. #22

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    I still don't understand. Unless it's to get around crashes on W7 or whatever where you're experiencing bad crashes/glitches, why are people saying the bare minimum would be less than what 3.4 has to offer?

    I suppose to contribute:
    Spellcast
    Recast
    Timestamp
    Yarnball
    Tickle

  3. #23
    New Merits
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    Quetzalcoatl

    recast
    distance
    light luggage
    chat mon
    silence
    status timer
    Tparty

    yarnball would be nice to have

  4. #24
    RIDE ARMOR
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    Siren

    TParty
    Distance
    Recast
    LightLuggage
    TimeStamp
    Yarnball

    Though not absolutely necessary I'd also be very happy to see BlinkMeNot. That's been a lifesaver for me, literally as I'm a main whm.

  5. #25
    True skill only comes from macro switching all your e-peen gear thru 10 pages
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    Quetzalcoatl

    I'm sure we can all say DrawDistance is important for non/plugin whores...

  6. #26
    Banned.

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    Spellcast
    Tparty
    logger
    cancel
    recast
    ll
    silence
    yarnball
    timestamp
    ime
    tickle
    precognition

    I personally will not even consider upgrading without all of those. Blinkmenot, would be nice, but i could manage without it.

  7. #27
    Fishing Guru
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    A little off-topic, but also on topic. I never bothered upgrading from 3.3 to 3.4 because I read it may mess up some of my macros. I know it's an easy fix or whatever but why create work for myself if I don't need to. So I guess a pre-req other than tparty, LL, Distance, recast, yarnball, timestamp, priority, G15binder, silence, and blinkmenot would be not changing macro language whether be it from 3.3 or 3.4. If I'm completely off on the macro thing from 3.3>3.4 then I'm an idiot, but the point still stands about upgrading to 4.

  8. #28
    Melee Summoner
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    Leviathan

    Hmm, my list:

    tparty
    recast
    distance
    lightluggage
    spellcast
    yarnball

  9. #29
    Radsourceful

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    Bismarck

    Spellcast
    Recast
    TParty
    Silence
    G15 Binder
    Cancel
    Distance

    Nice but not key

    DrawDistance
    Statustimer
    Logger
    Timestamp

  10. #30
    Fake Numbers
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    Shiva

    For me it would be....

    Recast
    TPParty
    Timestamp
    Chatmon
    ExpWatch
    Distance

  11. #31
    Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain
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    Ragns Meuhie
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    I hate you all!

  12. #32
    Relic Weapons
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    Odin

    For me:

    recast
    distance
    tparty

    although I got so used to playing without them, that's what I'd like at the minimum.

  13. #33
    Ranger
    9900klub

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    Sonomaa Kihten
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    Yarnball
    Tickle
    Yarnlog
    Recast
    Timestamp

  14. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragns View Post
    I hate you all!
    http://i45.tinypic.com/10fbced.jpg

  15. #35
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    Asura

    Spellcast
    Blinkmenot
    Distance
    Expwatch
    LightLuggage
    Recast
    Yarnball
    Silence
    Cancel
    Timestamp

    That's what I'd need to make the switch, otherwise it'd just be a downgrade to me.

  16. #36
    E. Body
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    Fenrir

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Minimum requirements to get 4.0 to be the standard? Wouldn't it.. have to have everything 3.4 has now and.. more? <.<

    If I was going to unload 3.4 and download 4.0 it'd have to have all the features/plug-in support 3.4 has and then some ;x
    A lot of functionality in the plugins for v4 are almost obsolete. Many aren't correctly maintained. But yes, the functionality from 3.4 should be there in v4 EVENTUALLY. But I'm looking for what people ACTUALLY WANT.

    Also, what you're missing is stability, compatibility and performance. Also additional features. That's what you get with v4 by default. It's like upgrading from XP to Win7. You may not get ALL your programs to work from XP, but you get an amazing OS and probably realize the programs that weren't maintained from XP to Win7 probably are more trouble than their worth anyways


    Quote Originally Posted by SephYuyX View Post
    I would love if the damn thing wouldnt crash when shutting down.
    v4 does not crash when shutting down (at least on windows 7 and XP. Haven't tested much on Vista.) ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiggy View Post
    Derp, forgot about windower's features: WindowerHelper support for 3rd party apps. :D
    This is likely, especially if Starhawk is able to help out a bit more, but not a super high priority right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiggy View Post
    I guess ChatMon is nice if RMT tells piss you off, it's honestly not a problem I've experienced so far in Bahamut (lol closed server).
    Chatmon is pretty easy to implement from v3, I plan on doing chat-based plugins this week if all goes well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiggy View Post
    Spellcast, while not essential in the strict sense of the word, is going to be included anyways regardless of my views. Everyone loves it.
    Spellcast is amazing, but as of now Aikar has no plans to port it to v4 and honestly, spellcast itself is probably about as much work as all the other plugins combined. I plan on implementing spellcast-like functionality in the final version, but sadly it's likely the last plugin to be ported over 100%. (Some early v4 spellcast code is actually in the alpha from Azaril)


    Quote Originally Posted by Pikarya View Post
    This is amazing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragns View Post
    I hate you all!
    Gonna help port yarnball? :D

  17. #37
    Ranger
    9900klub

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitsuj View Post
    Gonna help port yarnball? :D
    Im sure he will if the access doesnt keep getting yanked. I need my yarnball and yarnlog

  18. #38
    lettuce
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    Bismarck

    Quote Originally Posted by nitsuj View Post

    Spellcast is amazing, but as of now Aikar has no plans to port it to v4 and honestly, spellcast itself is probably about as much work as all the other plugins combined. I plan on implementing spellcast-like functionality in the final version, but sadly it's likely the last plugin to be ported over 100%. (Some early v4 spellcast code is actually in the alpha from Azaril)
    Will be a sad panda if not something close to SC,

    BMN
    recast
    yarnball

  19. #39
    E. Body
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    Fenrir

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa View Post
    Im sure he will if the access doesnt keep getting yanked. I need my yarnball and yarnlog
    I don't know the whole story, but personally I <3 yarnball.

    Ragns - talk to me on IRC if you want to fill me in?

  20. #40

    must have:
    IME for typing japanese

    nice to have:
    Spellcast
    Recast
    Distance

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