Dual-Wielding KC and Ridill(or M.kris)

[Argettio]

Would it not be either KC/30HP or KC/6% I.E. /drg earring instead of suppa.

Yes, it would.

[Byrthnoth]

* If you're going to sub Ninja anyway, the increase in hits from /Merc Kris is going to be better for you than 30 base HP (+3-5 damage per hit depending on food/etc). However, another DRK single-wielding a Merc Kris with a comparable zerg set is going to benefit more from the Merc Kris than you do. On the other hand, if you already keep a 35mil zerg weapon, what's another 3mil one?
* If you can sub DRG and are getting the full Haste treatment (SV Marches, Haste, 5/5 Haste Samba, etc) then /DRG and k-club alone will win as long as you don't die or take too much damage due to lack of shadows.

[Raen Ryong]

5/5 Haste Samba

Eats Blood Weapon

[Byrthnoth]

Wat? Seriously?

So ~68% Haste is the cap for k-club DRK? 25% from gear, 43% from magic, what am I forgetting?

[Raen Ryong]

Yeah. You can do 78%~ but without your Blood Weapon :D

[Nameless]

yep, 68%, you are not forgetting anything.

Also, kclub is also only about 50% better than MK in term of total output if you do the math (big time delay difference is what is often ignored). It cracks me up last time when I was asking to join the last windy wotg fight (I sit outside of windywater[S] til i see random ppl gathering for the fight, sort of a good way to "find" ppl if you have a hard time getting a group going), and I asked if I should go pld or drk, and they asked if my drk got kclub, I said no, just MK, and they go, pld then.

Funny to see how ppl are still in that kind of mindset about drk zerg or drk in general.

PS: also those who like to lvl sync to 72 just so they can use oclub... the sacrifice of that 3 lvls, the limitation of haste options due to the lvl is likely enough to almost offset the advantage. It is mostly only good if you have speed belt, dusk glove +1 boots +1 etc, which is still about 5% haste difference and some HP.

I think most ppl think about kclub, they think ok, hit up to 8 times, MK hit up to 3 times, 8/3 = 2.67, so kclub is 2.67 times better... huge mistake... xD

[Raen Ryong]

OClub is only about 9%~ behind Kclub and will still easily surpass any other option.

EDIT: This is assuming augmented Clown Subligar and such though... remove those and the gap widens but it won't fall behind the others.

[Nameless]

It should still be better than MK. It is just the idea of all that hassle makes you think it is some godly unfound combination. Almost like trying to be too cute in a sense.