GameSpy: Awfulchievements

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Which is still 4-8 times as long as it takes to complete a modern FPS.

I hope you understand the sheer inanity of this comment.



Achievements are not necessary a negative quality. There is little reason to hate on them. At most you can hate the people who like them. They are little more than pieces of paper with two sentences on them. Achievements really couldn't be bad or good. This is because by the very nature of achievements, they are worthless alone. They summarize the value of something else, the activity - like a trophy. (You can still make a living selling trophies, lol.)

FFXI's huge requirement achievements are not exactly a bad thing. Achievements are essentially trophies and have no value other than to brag you did something. So an achievement which requires you to get 18 level 75 jobs accomplishes exactly what it is suppose to: show that you have 18 level 75 jobs. Is 18 level 75 jobs stupid? You might think so, which is why one won't participate in the challenging of getting that trophy. This comparable to if someone thinks Golf is boring and/or mastering Golf is out of their grasp, they won't try to win a Golf trophy.

So this brings us back to whom would actually call INDIVIDUAL achievements "bad" or "evil": People with OCD and/or those who lost sight of the essence of games.

On another note: FFXI's achievements are redundant, because the game gives players the option to spend days upon days earning their own little achievements. Gear, merits, etc. The big difference here is that FFXI does a better job of pulling wool over the eyes of its players. They shift and shape the world so those trophies become functional mechanically. This gives the illusion of player improvement which is the very best achievement that can be found in videogames, it is the reason games are played. More people are literally (and bitterly) addicted to the FFXI-like* MMORPGs than collecting achievements on Xbox Live, because this faux progression is one hella drug.

Surely someone else sees how silly it is for FFXI players to bash xbox360 achievements?

*: By this I mean pretty much ALL MMOs, meaning WoW or Aion or etc too. They are all alike in this method.


EDIT:

an attention span that makes completing MW2's single-player campaign difficult will tend to get a negative response.

This may be lost on you, but completing MW2's campaign on veteran is harder than maybe 99% of FFXI.

[Not Kuno]

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