True definition of the word "Lolita" ?

[Meian]

I had a discussion with two friends about this word and it left me a bit confused on its exact definition. I am a bit of a grammar nazi when it comes to using words correctly so I wanted to seek a proper answer.

The word came from the novel "Lolita" which was the name given to the 11 year old schoolgirl by an older man.

Upon looking the word up for a definition on dictionary.com showed:
n. A seductive adolescent girl.

For a while I had thought the definition was a very young looking adolescent girl with some prepubescient characteristics. I didn't realize that this had meant they were sexually seeking as well (unless I am reading the use of "seductive" wrong and it meant seductive looking)

A friend stated it was the opposite of pedophilia where the said "kid" was seeking the older person in a sexual sense. However, I had always figured it was similar to ephebophilia (even though this was more of a mid-late adolescent).

Looking up adolescent brought me this:
n. A young person who has undergone puberty but who has not reached full maturity; a teenager.

Then I look up prepubescent:
1. of or pertaining to the years immediately preceding puberty, prepubertal.

This was where I got lost. The bandwagon and media has been labeling lolita fetish as pedophilia which includes prepubescent ages as well if I remember correctly. Ephebophilia covers mid to late adolescent and pedophilia is before adolescent. I don't recall a word for early adolescence.


Just curious for any clarification on this word in all seriousness.


inb4 cool story bro/tl;dr/pedobear van/assumption of troll/my own grammar mistakes/senoska and teamloli reference

[SephYuyX]

Pretty much common knowledge for anyone whos ever watched anime.

[Meian]

Pretty much common knowledge for anyone whos ever watched anime.

Where in lies the issue. I thought the way anime did it was to get away with the whole "underage" thing and just say they're all 18+/high school. It doesn't really help with my question.

[Takedown3]

google is there for a reason

[Stumblingdrunk]

Where in lies the issue. I thought the way anime did it was to get away with the whole "underage" thing and just say they're all 18+/high school. It doesn't really help with my question.

still confused as to what exactly your question is, you didn't leave much unanswered.

[Priran]

I'm not sure I understand what the point of the thread is. I guess the OP is surprised that most people don't know what ephebophilia is and just consider anyone attracted to someone below 18 a pedo?

[BadKarma]

Translation: I was looking for lolita porn and found something I didn't like so I decided to look up its origins and meaning, only so it doesn't happen again.

[Yuri-G]

I'm not sure I understand what the point of the thread is. I guess the OP is surprised that most people don't know what ephebophilia is and just consider anyone attracted to someone below 18 a pedo?

good god I had no idea there were so many different categories of pedo. although I guess pedo technically only refers to one of those categories.

yet another "how did people live before wiki?" moment.

[Meian]

More of a curiousity thing more than anything. I just wanted a better clearer definiton than the ones I could find since they seem to be vary.

And Priran you're also right about.

[archibaldcrane]

Creepy thread, or creepiest thread?

And this is coming from someone who doesn't find loli to be particularly disturbing.

[Meian]

Creepy thread, or creepiest thread?

And this is coming from someone who doesn't find loli to be particularly disturbing.

Words are creepy? I should dress up as a dictionary next Halloween

[Sol-Blackguy]

Translation: I was looking for lolita porn and found something I didn't like so I decided to look up its origins and meaning, only so it doesn't happen again.

This is the conclusion I reached too.

[archibaldcrane]

A lolita is a seductive adolescent girl. That's not the creepy part - thinking -this- hard about it is.

[Meian]

A lolita is a seductive adolescent girl.

There was that so hard. I guess I'll just assume it means all of adolescence instead of just the early portion. Guessing the ages vary but I assume from 11 to 17 *shrug*

[Null]

Creepy thread, or creepiest thread?

altwight hasn't graced it with his presence yet.

[Mr. Flippy]

did some one say loli?

[archibaldcrane]

You realize that "Lolita" meant nothing before the book, so it really means "the female main character from the Vladimir Nabokov novel of the same name".

It means "anything that can be related to that character" really.

[Yuri-G]

did some one say loli?

hush, you're not senoska.

[Null]

You are correct, senoska is to busy seeking a Lolita to play with his Mr. Flippy.

[Meian]

You realize that "Lolita" meant nothing before the book, so it really means "the female main character from the Vladimir Nabokov novel of the same name".

It means "anything that can be related to that character" really.

I was aware of the origin of the word hence me stating it at the beginning. I was looking more for how it is used today in better detail (grammatically speaking).