Senator Lierberman thinks that the compromise of the compromise is not compromised enough.

[Zoolander]

Right now $1 is worth something like E 0.7.

FTFY

[MarkM.]

Didn't see any posts about this, but it was on the news this morning. Howard Dean said that he wants the current healthcare reform bill scrapped. Read the link if you want more info.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_stor...storyid=116746

[Rhinox]

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34841


Holy shit Chuck Norris just brought this battle to a Whole 'nother level

http://www.facebook.com/profile/pic....RDDNdH1FovIKiI

[kuronosan]

I like Chuck Norris a little less now. But don't tell him.

[Psion]

5,224 earmarks -- costing about $3.9 billion is huge? >_________________>

Does he seriously not realize how much a year we spend on the military and wars of our causing, killing god knows how many people around the world and making more suffer? And he's whining about the lives of the unborn, of which many don't even have thought processes yet, which means their nothing but flesh yet. And this is from parents who for the vast majority, do NOT do abortions for fun but out of need. I'd rather the kids die before they're truly alive than to be brought into a world of suffering and poverty, where most orphans suffer from insecure homes in a government that can't get it's priorities right. Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-life, but also pro-choice. I'd rather we deal with the root causes behind needing abortions, behind orphanages to save lives, than banning abortion and having hundreds of thousands of moms and babies suffer.
(plus, many would do them illegally anyways, greatly enhancing their chances of death along with the unborn fetus)

Oh, and it looks like it's just propaganda for his new version of his book. lawl.

[Cort]

If by 'nanny state' you mean every successful industrialized nation yeah 'nanny states'. But go ahead keep preaching Anarachy and its successful nations like Somalia and Afghanistan and I'll keep my 'nanny states'.

I've never preached Anarchy.

yeah this country was founded in opposition to Britain's socialized healthcare and doles.

god what a fuckin' idiot.

and lay off the Paul-aid. Our money has value and if you think ending the Fed would magically solve every problem, I've got some beachfront property in Arizona I'd like to sell you (and some religions to sign you up for).

I like how you reply to posts with nonsense unrelated to the posts content.

If you where English I bet you would read the Guardian.

I'm glad I'm not English, seeing as they have no balls. How are those CCTVs, friend?

Cheep cheep, cheep cheep.

Also, Obama already tried his hardest. The President can only do so much.

You must not be aware of Executive Orders.

[Kerberoz]

5,224 earmarks -- costing about $3.9 billion is huge? >_________________>

Does he seriously not realize how much a year we spend on the military and wars of our causing, killing god knows how many people around the world and making more suffer? And he's whining about the lives of the unborn, of which many don't even have thought processes yet, which means their nothing but flesh yet. And this is from parents who for the vast majority, do NOT do abortions for fun but out of need. I'd rather the kids die before they're truly alive than to be brought into a world of suffering and poverty, where most orphans suffer from insecure homes in a government that can't get it's priorities right. Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-life, but also pro-choice. I'd rather we deal with the root causes behind needing abortions, behind orphanages to save lives, than banning abortion and having hundreds of thousands of moms and babies suffer.
(plus, many would do them illegally anyways, greatly enhancing their chances of death along with the unborn fetus)

Oh, and it looks like it's just propaganda for his new version of his book. lawl.

The thing I've always found funny about "Amurkan" conservatives is how they preach "personal responsibility" for every issue except contraception and parenting.

[willriker]

Didn't see any posts about this, but it was on the news this morning. Howard Dean said that he wants the current healthcare reform bill scrapped. Read the link if you want more info.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_stor...storyid=116746

He was talking about how the bill requires us to have insurance, but is being stripped of all the controls that were to be put into place to push down costs. In his view, this is a bill to help the insurance companies make even more money than before. Younger people will be required to gain insurance. And, in many states of the country over 90% (not a made up figure but i am too lazy atm to look up where i found the number) of insurance policies are dominated by a single company. So, how does the American people get anything out of this other than being forced to give private insurance companies more money than they ever made before.

For the most part i agree. I believe that the insurance companies also agree. I know that i have seen a heck of a lot less anti-health care reform advertizements around lately. That alone speaks volumes with how they were spamming the airwaves with anti-reform propeganda just a couple weeks ago.

Frankly, i do not see how lasting cost decreases will occur unless there is some sort of public option. Some entity that can offer health insurance at a rate which forces private insurers to stay in line, or go bust, is very important. Does it need to be government run? no. Does it need to be socialist in nature? no. Does it need to be a long term sap on our economy? no. But some thing is needed to keep these companies in line.

Right now, in exchange for being forced to buy insurance we get:
-cant be dropped for a preexisting condition
-cant be dropped because your treatments are costing the company too much money
-cant be forbidden to get insurance because you are sick
-cant be forbidden to get insurance because statistics say you will be sick
-cant be charged extreme premiums just for being older
-cant be charged extreme premiums because you became ill
-people of lower income will be provided subsidies to afford health care

I have yet to hear anything about:
-acceptance of fully tested 'new' technologies that cannot be deemed experimental anymore
-abortion
-cosmetic surgeries that should not be condsidered cosmetic surgeries. Like the final stages of plastic surgery for burn victims. to really help them to feal like they look normal.
-How they intend to preserve the tradition of never turning a person away that needs care, while satisfying the morons who think illigal immegrants shouldnt be given healthcare. because, somehow, they are not human so its not our responcibility to help in any way we can.

Still, if the public option is dead. Which it seems like it is. I do not see how they intend for this to save us money.

[Rhinox]

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/1...bout-the-left/

This cocksucker has some giant balls to say this shit. Spitting on the face of the people that help put him and his BFF in office

[Leif]

Still, if the public option is dead. Which it seems like it is. I do not see how they intend for this to save us money.

Liberals are finally pretending to be fiscally responsible, as if the "public option" would have been a cost-saver, covering tens of millions of people in a growing government program that would soon addict the whole country to a massive Ponzi scheme.

Well, now that Democrats want to force every American to buy insurance while forcing insurance companies to cover those with preexisting conditions (a completely unenforceable mandate), everyone's health care costs will rise.

When Sally Sue, a 60-year-old chain-smoking woman who looks like a beach ball, can't afford the insurance she is required to buy, that means the kids right out of college have to pay for it. When they decide to opt out of paying for Sally's long and frequent hospital visits and just take the fine instead, that means Sally now needs a subsidy. That means the taxpayer has to pay.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/1...bout-the-left/

This cocksucker has some giant balls to say this shit. Spitting on the face of the people that help put him and his BFF in office

Who's the cocksucker? Are you angry at the mostly-true column or Rahm Emanuel?

[Rhinox]

Liberals are finally pretending to be fiscally responsible, as if the "public option" would have been a cost-saver, covering tens of millions of people in a growing government program that would soon addict the whole country to a massive Ponzi scheme.

Well, now that Democrats want to force every American to buy insurance while forcing insurance companies to cover those with preexisting conditions (a completely unenforceable mandate), everyone's health care costs will rise.

When Sally Sue, a 60-year-old chain-smoking woman who looks like a beach ball, can't afford the insurance she is required to buy, that means the kids right out of college have to pay for it. When they decide to opt out of paying for Sally's long and frequent hospital visits and just take the fine instead, that means Sally now needs a subsidy. That means the taxpayer has to pay.


Who's the cocksucker? Are you angry at the mostly-true column or Rahm Emanuel?

I don't know man I don't know who I was talking about. use your head fb, last I checked we didn't vote columnist in the whitehouse.

[Leif]

I don't know man I don't know who I was talking about. use your head fb, last I checked we didn't vote columnist in the whitehouse.

You didn't vote corruptocrat Rahm Emanuel in either.

[Rhinox]

You didn't vote corruptocrat Rahm Emanuel in either.

Indirectly we did. He came with BO as part of the package. Put your thinking cap on.

[Leif]

Indirectly we did. He came with BO as part of the package. Put your thinking cap on.

But you didn't vote for him.