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    Quote Originally Posted by azagarth View Post
    is there any weapon+supremecy earring combo that outdoes the rest, barring relics?
    No

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    Oracle's Gloves vs Morrigan's Cuffs for BLM enfeebling magic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearboy View Post
    Oracle's Gloves vs Morrigan's Cuffs for BLM enfeebling magic?
    The same in terms of enfeebling, as skill = m.acc.

    So the decision comes down to the other stats and what else you carry. Oracles are great for resting whereas Morrigans are good for nuking.

    If you carry both then I would suggest you use Oracles due to the HP (although that's splitting hairs).

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    @mdkuser

    I see a Pachipachio in your avatar, is this weapon any good ?
    Why ? What situations ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Question on Full Usukane.

    I know Full Usukane is best for MNK but Is it better to use full Usuakane on SAM and NIN or are you better off with a mix/match set for both of those jobs?
    /drg in salvage/assault with http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...erial_Ring.PNG? (overcapping acc?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eole View Post
    @mdkuser

    I see a Pachipachio in your avatar, is this weapon any good ?
    Why ? What situations ?
    He will sing the praises of a 5hit Pachi, others will say it isn't great (ie not better than hagun) and that a good Rindomaru is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eole View Post
    @mdkuser

    I see a Pachipachio in your avatar, is this weapon any good ?
    Why ? What situations ?
    read the previous page of this thread. It is only worth if you cap accuracy and have usukane body +feet; in this situation, if you only consider its damage and delay, it beats sword strap hagun ( 22% haste) , but loses slightly to pole grip hagun (23% haste). That's not accounting for the +19 attack it has and the advantage of a true 5-hit build during meditate (no meditated tp wasted since you get 20tp/hit, like 480 delay polearms), so it also beats pole grip hagun, but by a small amount.


    edit: additionnaly the possibility to solo light every 2:30 is sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    read the previous page of this thread. It is only worth if you cap accuracy and have usukane body +feet; in this situation, if you only consider its damage and delay, it beats sword strap hagun ( 22% haste) , but loses slightly to pole grip hagun (23% haste). That's not accounting for the +19 attack it has and the advantage of a true 5-hit build during meditate (no meditated tp wasted since you get 20tp/hit, like 480 delay polearms), so it also beats pole grip hagun, but by a small amount.


    edit: additionnaly the possibility to solo light every 2:30 is sexy.
    But what about ppl who don't have kasha?!?!

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    hmm would it be wiser to go /drg all the time with it then? Since your at 22% haste now you could drop wala to aces or askar (since you got dusk+1) and use wyv earring netting you 7 acc and 4% haste capping you on haste. Seems to me this would make a much higher improvement over /war. Its been shown /drg for hagun is best but barely and you really have to pay attention. I see that with pachi however it should skew more in favor since you literally should then be able to solo light ever 2:30, while you cant add the SC dmg because you dont know about resist rates I see this easily winning over hagun. Wish I had the gear to try it lol.... but alas no usukane ><;

    Also I assume that is your pizza build? Seems like for hnms it would still be under cap. What is your total acc with it? And dont talk about bird stuff because we all know in any meripo polearm is miles ahead of gkt.

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    I'm sure this has been asked before, and if so I apologize D:

    but

    For SAM WS on taru

    Champion's Galea - AGI+4 STR+4 Weapon Skill Accuracy +15 Increases weapon skill damage (+2%)

    or

    Champion's Galea - STR+6 Weapon Skill Accuracy +15 Haste+2%


    I would think the 2nd, but I thought I'd ask.

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    2% WS damage > 2STR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Hagun/Pole/ /
    Turban
    Usu body/Dusk
    Vbelt/Byakkos/Fuma
    I tried this in meripo because you had me think about Fuma :

    Rose Strap
    Walahra Turban
    Wyvern Earring
    Askar Korazin
    Dusk Gloves
    Byakko Haidate
    Swift Belt
    Fuma Sune-Ate

    25% Gear Haste is really fun with RDM BRD COR, 1 DNC and it would have been heaven !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eole View Post
    I tried this in meripo because you had me think about Fuma :

    Rose Strap

    Walahra Turban
    Wyvern Earring
    Askar Korazin
    Dusk Gloves
    Byakko Haidate
    Swift Belt
    Fuma Sune-Ate

    25% Gear Haste is really fun with RDM BRD COR, 1 DNC and it would have been heaven !
    You don't need Askar with rose strap assuming you have rajas ring, and brutal if I remember right, though maybe need +1 more during to like chiv chain, white tathulm, or Ecphoria ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    You don't need Askar with rose strap assuming you have rajas ring, and brutal if I remember right, though maybe need +1 more during to like chiv chain, white tathulm, or Ecphoria ring.
    Rose Strap 4
    Askar Korazin 5
    Rajas Ring 5
    Brutal Earring 1

    4 + 5 + 5 + 1 = 15
    15 + 35 = 50

    11.5 * 1.50 = 17.2
    (17.2 * 5) + (11.5 * 1.41) = 86 + 16.2 = 102.2

    ---

    5 + 5 + 1 = 11
    11 + 35 = 46

    11.5 * 1.46 = 16.7
    (16.7 * 5) + (11.5 * 1.41) = 83.5 + 16.2 = 99.7

    That's with Hagun, but I also used this with Engetsuto (while using Usukane Sune-Ate for WS, Store TP Calculation is different => 13 * 1.51 etc..).

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    With hagun you'd be better off using pole strap and WSing in hachi feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eole View Post
    Rose Strap 4
    Askar Korazin 5
    Rajas Ring 5
    Brutal Earring 1

    4 + 5 + 5 + 1 = 15
    15 + 35 = 50

    11.5 * 1.50 = 17.2
    (17.2 * 5) + (11.5 * 1.41) = 86 + 16.2 = 102.2

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    5 + 5 + 1 = 11
    11 + 35 = 46

    11.5 * 1.46 = 16.7
    (16.7 * 5) + (11.5 * 1.41) = 83.5 + 16.2 = 99.7
    where are you getting 41 stp from during ws?
    Are you not WSing in rajas, brutal,[WUT?], and/or rose strap[LOL losing TP] for some reason?
    So would be 11.5 * 1.45[35+5+4+1] = 16.675 + 83.5 = 100.175.
    Quit being stupid you don't need askar body for TP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    where are you getting 41 stp from during ws?
    Are you not WSing in rajas, brutal,[WUT?], and/or rose strap[LOL losing TP] for some reason?
    So would be 11.5 * 1.45[35+5+4+1] = 16.675 + 83.5 = 100.175.
    Quit being stupid you don't need askar body for TP.
    @Fottiti

    So Askar + Pole | Hachiman + Pole
    35+5+5+1 | 35 + 4 + 5 + 1
    16.7 | 16.6
    100.1 TP

    Edit : It's +5 not +4 for Hachiman 100.2 TP because 16.7 * 6

    So it's 2% DA vs 1 STR 5 Attack.
    I understand why then.

    After chasing after Usukane for so long.
    I'm now going to buy old stuff I thought I would never use again lol @_@.

    @Wolfknight

    You're right; I forgot about it in the first calculation.

    Askar Korazin is good enough if Accuracy is capped.
    I like the 2% DA while I don't really like Rose Strap.

    I think Fottiti's tip is the way to go on this matter with a Hagun.

    As for Engetsuto, you have ((13 * 1.51) * 4) + (13 * 1.53) = 78.4 + 19.8 = 98.2.
    You need 2 more hits from Penta Thrust and it's good (3/5, not so bad eh).
    But you need Rose Strap and Askar Korazin (or Usukane Haramaki if you have it yet).

    As long as your Accuracy is capped, I see no problem here

    Good night, I'm really getting tired.

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    Ancient Torque for Hope Torque for Ninja? Assuming no Katana merits.

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    Ancient easily.

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    Would the Str4/dex 4 neck be worth it over Gorget for crit based WS? (reasonable amount of dex built up).

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