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    exist is dats onry? or what lol, seems silly to say these jobs are there if its a dat only thing, theres like 5 million non player used dats in ffxi, would only be foolish to think all these were for us if thats the case.
    in which case the title of the thread should add that its speculative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathbySnoosnoo View Post
    exist is dats onry? or what lol, seems silly to say these jobs are there if its a dat only thing, theres like 5 million non player used dats in ffxi, would only be foolish to think all these were for us if thats the case.
    in which case the title of the thread should add that its speculative.
    Sorry, I forgot about the abundance of unused jobs in FFXI dats with their own unique weapons and commands.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Sorry, I forgot about the abundance of unused jobs in FFXI dats with their own unique weapons and commands.

    still speculative.

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    people that post confirmations of unconfirmed things irk me.

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    If it exists, it is confirmed to exist.

    Where's the confusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathbySnoosnoo View Post
    people that post confirmations of unconfirmed things irk me.
    Let's try not to shit this thread up too, thanks.

    Did you see what weapon Arcanists used? It looked like a weird staff in screenshots.

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    Since someone posted it on /v/ and everyone treats it with a grain of salt..

    I didn't sort it out this time, I'll let you all do that on your own to remove my personal speculations from the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qpoiuwer View Post
    Let's try not to shit this thread up too, thanks.

    Did you see what weapon Arcanists used? It looked like a weird staff in screenshots.
    All I can find right now is "Archanist Weapon" just as all I can really find for other mages is "Conjurer Weapon," "Thaumaturge Weapon," and "Mystic Weapon." I'm browsing the item list..but it isn't really my top priority because of how tedious it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    If it exists, it is confirmed to exist.

    Where's the confusion?
    Its confirmed that these dats exist, yes, but not confirming that these are actual classes you can be. Unless you have proof of that somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeu View Post
    Since someone posted it on /v/ and everyone treats it with a grain of salt..

    I didn't sort it out this time, I'll let you all do that on your own to remove my personal speculations from the mix.

    0B/45/02/D0.DAT:
    Wow that looks trippy on Firefox

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathbySnoosnoo View Post
    people that post confirmations of unconfirmed things irk me.
    It's confirmed that they exist in the .dats. The OP was C&P'd from the 200+ page thread which explains that for your convenience. You'll forgive everyone who is appreciative of the information for not sympathizing with your plight.

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    If fencers use fencing weapons and actually... fence, it'll be the first time seeing a true fencing-type class in any MMO, I believe.

    Lets hope SE learned a little from Atlus about the use of rapiers - you don't fucking swing them like hackswords.

    Edit: If Fencers truly use a thrusting style of attack with thrusting swords, I could see a lot of their moves ignoring defense, but hitting for average damage - they would have been useful in FFXI against the 10,000 types of self-buffing crabs we fought over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    If fencers use fencing weapons and actually... fence, it'll be the first time seeing a true fencing-type class in any MMO, I believe.

    Lets hope SE learned a little from Atlus about the use of rapiers - you don't fucking swing them like hackswords.
    I do. They're more fun that way. They make that swish sound!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kachi View Post
    It's confirmed that they exist in the .dats. The OP was C&P'd from the 200+ page thread which explains that for your convenience. You'll forgive everyone who is appreciative of the information for not sympathizing with your plight.
    I appreciate the info(As I would love to be a fencer or musketeer) and I've been reading the 200 page thread. Just saying its still unconfirmed(that these are playable at launch or at all) and the title should reflect that in some manner.(That these are found Dats and NOT 100% certain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kachi View Post
    I do. They're more fun that way. They make that swish sound!
    You would actually engage in combat swinging a degen like a katana? While I suppose the swishing sound would be nice, I'd fear for that sword after a single strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    You would actually engage in combat swinging a degen like a katana? While I suppose the swishing sound would be nice, I'd fear for that sword after a single strike.
    Depends on what kind of opponent I'm dealing with, but yeah. If I have an open shot I'll slap the shit out of them like I'm wielding a metal whip!

    @Snoosnoo; I know, the OP is not entirely transparent in what that information means, but I was just pointing out that considering it's one of many favors from Cair, the presence in the .dats means it's far more likely that it will be implemented than not, and the fact that it's not 100% going to be implemented is knowable either between reading the other thread or just being obvious... let's not give Cair any crap.

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    I dunno, Fencer could simply mean Japanese Fencer, which is just another Samurai, which is what they've already done in FFXI. Seems like the easy way out, and more than likely, the way they'll take, considering I don't think anyone's found .dats for actual thrusting swords.

    Oh Atlus, your lessons for the world go unheeded yet again...

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    Fencer would be an interesting concept. but im not so sure if its a RL fencer or FF fencer they're taking inspiration from..

    if RL, i'd love to see it as a tactical swordsman of sorts. It'd be like a 1handed Lancer, since they deal with thrusts as well. The only difference I guess is that lancer might possibly be more evasive or defensive.. or a "parry-tank" who gains attacks by way of riposte.

    edit: but if its just a Samurai type like Lucavi says.. its still kinda cool. basically you have a swordmaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    I dunno, Fencer could simply mean Japanese Fencer, which is just another Samurai, which is what they've already done in FFXI. Seems like the easy way out, and more than likely, the way they'll take, considering I don't think anyone's found .dats for actual thrusting swords.

    Oh Atlus, your lessons for the world go unheeded yet again...
    Did you miss the part where there are rapiers listed in the dats there and no katanas?

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