Random Cataclysm discussion

[Lordender]

This helps but if it's my first time doing the heroic version I'm still going to ask if anything is different between the two - like the fact that Corborus's burrow deal oneshots you in heroic mode. Not that I'd just hang out in the dust and wait for him to pummel me, but knowing that it's a oneshot mechanic before starting makes me be that much more aware of where I'm standing.

And I have been vtk'ed because I'd done normal but not heroic and I asked if anything was different between the two. Fucking tools, how is anyone supposed to learn.

8/10 not quite up to Hyan level just yet.

[The Stig]

8/10 not quite up to Hyan level just yet.

I might be missing something, what do you mean? lol

[Arvin]

So after thorough testing, the manatide totem change is really just a huge buff and blizzard is dumb. Jar + Tsunami AND heartsong are included into the 400%. Not to mention a flask.

[aurik]

Is core included?

Also I agree blizzard is dumb.

Edit to add: Looks like the new resto druid nourish-speed-buff is bugged as well:

Also, I was playing around with Nature's Bounty and I noticed something interesting. After casting 3 rejuv's on just 3 targets, I get the Nourish haste increase (with current gear I'm at 1.6s cast time). This does stack with Nature's Grace as expected, bringing the cast time down to 1.4s (same as RG).

The thing is...if you cast 3 rejuvs on 3 targets, and then spam nourish, you actually keep the haste buff until the last rejuv wears off and even beyond. I casted 3 rejuvs on 3 targets (the last being myself). Even after the buff had expired on myself, my next cast was still 1.6 seconds for one cast.

Nice.

[Arvin]

Core isn't included, which is really fucking weird lol. I don't understand how it's counting heartsong but it won't count core. They need to pick their wording better, because on the MTT tooltip it says "excludes short-term buffs" but all 3 of those are short-term.

[Arvin]

Not even fully buffed, I have about 100k or so mana pool. I just went 0->100% in one tide with everything up. this isnt broken or anything, nope

[aurik]

Now every guild will bring exactly 1 resto shaman, no need for multiple since it's a full mana bar raid-wide every 3 minutes.
(For the next day or two, then they hotfix it)

They probably just excluded click-buffs. But any moron should have noticed that heartsong and proc-buffs and 100% uptime stacking buffs should probably have been included as well.

My guess is the t11 4pc spirit will also apply.

[Saxon]

Fall of Mortality work with it?

[aurik]

If heartsong works I can't see why FoM wouldn't. Unless they're specifically disabling particular buffs by ID?

[Cephius]

Patch is on PTR for 2 months, glaring bugs still make it onto live, water is wet, sky is blue, news at 10!

[Saxon]

If heartsong works I can't see why FoM wouldn't. Unless they're specifically disabling particular buffs by ID?

I guess I'll test it on Thursday if nobody else has the trinket yet.

[Aksannyi]

Lol they broke the queues, seems anyone who race changed to worgen can not queue for RDF and is getting an error message about not having completed a required quest.

I don't play a worgen, but my friend does and is annoyed that he can't queue. Lol.

[Arvin]

Now every guild will bring exactly 1 resto shaman, no need for multiple since it's a full mana bar raid-wide every 3 minutes.
(For the next day or two, then they hotfix it)

They probably just excluded click-buffs. But any moron should have noticed that heartsong and proc-buffs and 100% uptime stacking buffs should probably have been included as well.

My guess is the t11 4pc spirit will also apply.

I wouldn't really be able to test it, since I have a 372 helm and I don't have the heroic token to replace my 359 tier yet. (sitting at 3piece)

We'll still be using two shaman, because well.. if you play it right you can be really efficient healers. Also, more mana for everyone to bomb heal!

[Saxon]

Fall of Mortality doesn't work with MTT... lol.

[Tajin]

" # Lava Burst’s damage has been increased by roughly 10%. "

That was so unnecessary for leveling, I can 3 shot mobs pretty much since I learned lava burst.

[Eaglestrike]

It takes you 3 shots? Do you not have BoA's? All it took me pre-patch was LB with the flame shock and then a lightning shield/another tick would kill it if it wasn't dead already.

[Tajin]

Full BoA but I got used to lightning - shock - burst, I tend to kill stuff in 'cruise control' mode usually, because it keeps me relaxed instead of keeping everything on CD. 1,2,3 dead mob works

[Kurokikaze]

Playing around with Marksman Hunter. Shit is way too OP... I do more damage than I did with Pre-nerf Survival, especially during the initial 20%.

[SamanosukeShiva]

yup, 37k dps single target during rapid fire + careful aim is just insane.

[Plow]

Playing around with Marksman Hunter. Shit is way too OP... I do more damage than I did with Pre-nerf Survival, especially during the initial 20%.

Been leveling a priest, got in wsg with a hunter from my server and he said he'd give me 200g if he got wrecking ball.

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lol, balance