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  1. #1081
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    I wish you were on Phoenix still to sell that.

  2. #1082
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    Ya wristbands -1 would have sold for a higher premium on phoenix as well, but what can you do?

  3. #1083

    Quote Originally Posted by Minihex View Post
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    Taking offers
    The ever seductive Reinberta pulls through again I see.

  4. #1084
    Sea Torques
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    1/65 HQ

    on T1

    and the thing that I HQ'd was a paralyze potion for a friend that needed me to craft them a stack

    crafting so ossum

  5. #1085
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    1/55 Hexed Coif -1.

    I have HQed all the new alchemy recipes at least once.

  6. #1086
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    Well I decided to make some less expensive T1s-6/60 including two back to back


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    HQ rates without breaks:
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    19/357 on Haoma's Rings
    3/32 on Hexed Nails -1 :: Unattempted T0
    2/40 on Hexed Slops -1 :: 0/21 T0
    5/56 on Debilis Medallion : Unattempted T0
    3/67 on Hexed Coif -1 :: Unattempted T0
    4/70 on Hexed Gages -1 :: 2/22 T0
    4/71 on Hexed Doublet -1 :: 3/74 T0
    2/13 on Eradicator's Kilij :: 0/4 T0 <---- predictable

    Subcraft synths:
    22/376 Mythril Ring +1

    With multiple crafts- I had 60 GS and 70 Cloth for these synths.
    1/42 Mage's Slops
    0/81 Mage's Cuffs <--- ??? Probably used a 20:80 split of the Peridot:Tourmaline recipe.
    6/117 Mage's Robe
    3/77 Mage's Hat

    :: Totals updated at 10AM : 9/10/12


    Tier 1 (no subcrafts): 6.1% HQ rate +/- 1.5% (sometimes I was using Rusks, who knows if they matter)
    Tier 1 (subcrafts): 3.2% HQ rate +/- 2% (including the Velvet Cuffs recipe, which I have to imagine I'm Tier 1 on)
    Tier 0: 4% HQ rate +/- 4% (I got lucky. Used only one Rusk the entire time)

    Cost Analysis:
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    Expenses:
    442 Ethereal Squama synthed (9 more lost, so 451 total). I bought them for probably 1mil each on average including the ones I farmed as 0s and ones I server transferred (once) at about 600k each to balance out the initial 1400k ones I was purchasing for the low levels.
    The cost of other materials is ultimately dwarfed by Squama prices, so I'm going to toss in another 50k per synth and call it good enough.
    451*1050 = ~475mil

    Revenue:
    I've sold all but a one Doublet -1, Coif -1, and Nails -1. Income from those sales was 415mil.
    Additionally, I have sold approximately 100mil worth of NQs (across servers).

    Profit:
    415+100-475 = 40mil


    So yay, months of paralyzing my gil flow with Alchemy purchases and wasting a ton of time to craft has net me approximately 40mil profit! I'm finally back in the black! If I hadn't gotten lucky with those initial Tier 0s I'd have scuttled and ended up farming Squamas or Dynamis to finance it. The only reason I managed to blitz it up was unreasonable T0 luck.

    Doing this analysis has made me realize that I really shouldn't sell -1s for less than about 25mil considering how much they cost me to make and how high the odds of going totally broke trying to make them are.

  8. #1088
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Doing this analysis has made me realize that I really shouldn't sell -1s for less than about 25mil considering how much they cost me to make and how high the odds of going totally broke trying to make them are.
    While I'm sorry to see you have made so little profit, I really like my new gear! Thanks for all the effort you've made(while it may not necessarily show in the ledger). The hat looks sweet, and I can't wait to get to idle in it once I can get HQ augment

  9. #1089
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    I was feeling the luck...



    and I pushed out another before going to sleep.



    This makes up for going like 1/30 ish on Phos+1.

  10. #1090
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    Wow very ncie.

    What was your setup? lvl, items etc.

  11. #1091
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    I'm not sure what level he is, but you need at least 107 leather (+armors, megamoglification, torque and adv. support) with smithing and goldsmithing at least 70 for them to be tier 1.

  12. #1092
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zouri View Post
    I'm not sure what level he is, but you need at least 107 leather (+armors, megamoglification, torque and adv. support) with smithing and goldsmithing at least 70 for them to be tier 1.

    My friend said 71 smithing. Thats why I was asking, since he is obviously T1 on them.

  13. #1093
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    My friend said 71 smithing. Thats why I was asking, since he is obviously T1 on them.
    If he's 108 leather, could swap Tanner's Gloves for Smithy's Mitts? Goldsmithing enhancement is on headgear so that doesn't interfere with either (if you need 71 GS also).

  14. #1094
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    If he's 108 leather, could swap Tanner's Gloves for Smithy's Mitts? Goldsmithing enhancement is on headgear so that doesn't interfere with either (if you need 71 GS also).

    Yeah its doable a few ways. His smithing skill, goldsmithing skill and items used will help narrow down the subcraft levels. I want to take a run at Tekko -1 and just trying to confirm T1 sub levels.

  15. #1095
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    i had no problem making them with only 70 smithing and goldsmithing...

    for the record, ive never had smithy's mitts...

  16. #1096
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    Currently working on smithy's torque for my smithing sub, lol, then going back to skilling smithing to skill leather more, like leather torque, this is taking ages.

  17. #1097
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    Certainly hope these recipes don't require subs over 70 to T1.... especially the ones with multiple subs

  18. #1098
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    I also hope that das, also, just got smithing torque, lol, so 2nd crafting torque done, took less time than leather 1 by alot, and no mystery box power either.

  19. #1099
    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Certainly hope these recipes don't require subs over 70 to T1.... especially the ones with multiple subs
    Not knowing any of the subcrafts, I'd say the optimal situation to craft Hexed Gamashes/Wristbands might be 110 Bone w/ torque/stall/apron, 70 Leather w/ gloves & ADV support, then 70 Gold w/ glasses (110+8, 70+4, 70+1). A step up would be to get the Leather apron since bone apron would do nothing for the main craft in T1ing.

    Hexed Jacket would be 110 Bone w/ stall/torque/apron/ADV support, 70 Leather w/ gloves, 70 Cloth w/ glasses (110+11, 70+1, 70+1). I'm simply basing this off of Leather being a secondary sub to Bone since forever.

  20. #1100
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    Yeah the problem with that it most likely kills your ability to T1 while skilling up. Not to mention the couple of months wait getting gp items. Also pretty sure jacket is only clothe. Luckily I haven't touched cloth yet so I can test it's lvl when I get there

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