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  1. #1141
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    Gambieras may be tier 0 but the material issues are much larger than they are with jacket. Compare the two:

    Jacket:
    Staghorn Coral: Legion or VW from Tsui Gorab or Toucan for TOAU
    Penelope Cloth: Legion or VW from Fjalar or Brekekeke
    Befouled Silver: Lord Ruthven or Hahava drop
    Malboro Fiber: Cassie / Eve / Many BCNMs (Biggest Risk is people vendoring)
    Rest all are commonly available

    Gambieras:
    2 x Ormolu Ingot Legion or VW from Vanskavarik or Penguin in Uleg
    Aht Uhghan Brass Ingot: Cannot obtain ingot, can only obtain ores from certain assaults or mining in Halvung
    Pelt of Dawon: Tier 3 VNM or random drop from Tier 3 Jeuno
    Black Solleretes: Requires a Kunwu sheet, which is 3 Kunwu Ore or 1 Kunwu Iron. Only obtainable from Bahamut / Ouryu / Campaign in Fort Karugo Narugo

    The materials for Gambieras are much more annyoing to obtain. Then you also toss in the relative cost difference for leveling gold versus bone and 100+ for both sounds right.

  2. #1142
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    As a buyer interested in both of those, I can tell you that the Tier doesn't really matter. What matters is that I'll probably never see one for sale. If I do see one for sale, I'll have to decide between half a relic of gil and a 1% increase in my Pyrrhic Kleos damage. There won't be any statistical analysis of how unlikely I am to ever see another, because the answer for both is that I'll probably never get another chance to buy them.

  3. #1143
    Ridill
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    Is there any real proof they aren't T1able? While gambeiras ingredients are annoying and like 5mil or so last I checked. But main craft lv is fairly easy to get to... so shouldn't be too hard to find someone who could and would make them

  4. #1144
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    Yeah, but going 1/16 on them means you need 32 Ormolu Ingots on average to make one HQ pair. That's 96 million gil worth of ingots on Lakshmi and I'd bet no one buys the NQs.

    We get about one Ingot per day on AH, so it would also take you a month and you'd need to sell for approximately max bazaar gil to break even on average. Probably more than that including the other ingredients. I'm sure people that grind GS up aren't looking to break even.

  5. #1145
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    I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing for me, but staghorns and cloths aren't so bad on my server because RMT buy from other servers and bring them here because they are the most expensive on all servers.

  6. #1146
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    Does this count as an amazing craft?


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  8. #1148
    A. Body
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    Win

  9. #1149
    Ridill
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    Yeah I keep warning the people who are purposely trying to pump the price up materials up who want the jacket too that it just means I'm going to have to charge even more but they don't get it lol. Oh well sellling an item for 200mil sounds awesome lol

    Nice T0 HQs though

  10. #1150
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    220mil, jesus fuck.

  11. #1151
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    reminds me of 2004 prices... i think the highest priced item i ever sold was dusk gloves +1 for 120M at the height of inflation.

  12. #1152
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    Oh god.

    I guess it's not going to sink down to the affordable 100m range anytime soon, huh.

  13. #1153
    Ridill
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    K yeah afk capping my bonecraft. That's just fucking unreal.

  14. #1154
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihina View Post
    Oh god.

    I guess it's not going to sink down to the affordable 100m range anytime soon, huh.
    I'd say it depends alot on your servers. Because of scarcity of materials there isn't alot of people high enough to T1 if any on some servers. And even then getting enough to then get HQ... and then some servers people are being jackasses and trying to raise the price of ingredients as much as possible (just under 4mil now on my server) so you figure even assuming 10% hq rate that's still 40mil to break even on materials... But other servers it's like a 2mil synth if that. And the ah camping of ingredients by the other people trying to skill up making you have to do so too losing out on but on others more supplies...

    Also who knows SE might add something to bone that lets them get thru those painful lvls past 105 faster. Or might add something else that drops P clothe and staghorn.... or more people might start doing legion because of the profit from those

  15. #1155
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    Rofl, are you kicking yourself for selling the first for 99.9m?

  16. #1156
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    Now you have enough gil to obtain those relics you fake loaded onto AH Rerisen.

  17. #1157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Now you have enough gil to obtain those relics you fake loaded onto AH Rerisen.
    Better yet, to buy the ones he has not fake loaded so he has them all! (hi2u claustrum)

  18. #1158
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    Spending a full 99 relic worth of gil on a ws piece that is mostly good for sa / ta wses and wildfire seems like a terrible decision to me. I guess after a gazillion gil of dancer weapons I really shouldn't judge, but shit!

  19. #1159
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    Meh, I don't judge people on how they want to spend their gil. At this point in the game many veterans have massive gil stockpiles with nothing left to buy that really interests them. I'd much rather spend 200m on a situational piece that I would use than a 99 relic that would sit in storage for a job I never play.

  20. #1160
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    not the first or anything, but 1/26 at like 9mil a synth q.q, now to sell or to use.... http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps00a970a7.jpg

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