Stereoscopic 3D & Multiple Monitors in FFXIV

[Deadgye]

6 is silly because you actually notice that black bar across the middle.

It's useful for driving games and strategy games. What was being looked into last was 5 screens in portrait mode iirc.

[Darus Grey]

The way your brain removes them isn't really that different. And there are triple monitor setups built specifically for eyefinity out already- they're just stupidly expensive.

4realz.

The real way to do this is with 3+ projectors, so much cheaper, no bezels, and you can build your screen to be curved if you want(though the game really needs to support it).

[bluefan]

For those of you who are interested in 3D XIV, and multi-monitor, Anandtech did a nice little write up explaining Nvidias 3D Vision Surround.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3793/n...ision-surround

[mr.bryce]

For those of you who are interested in 3D XIV, and multi-monitor, Anandtech did a nice little write up explaining Nvidias 3D Vision Surround.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3793/n...ision-surround

3D vision which, everyone should be reminded is a rip off, considering how nvidia dropped all the other 3d options they d been doing for more than 10years ! and only left their overpriced glasses+overpricemonitor combo as the ONLY option.

alternatives are iz3d and tridef which are compatible with ATI cards.

Viewing 3D has more to do with your brain then your eyes....and anyone who plays for that long will eventually get eye problems, on any kind of display.

i used to think that but i m not so sure anymore. eyes have two ways of focusing on an image. i dont have all the scientific terms but one is the eye orientation muscles and the other one is the lens muscles. these are supposed to work synchronously but the artificial 3d viewing breaks that process. i m wondering if 3d doesnt sollicitate lens muscle too much and accelerate deterioration of the lens suppleness.

i m opened to arguments though could be total bs i m not an optometrist

[Cloud]

I'm saving my money up for a 50" Samsung 3DTV so I can use that instead of a 3D monitor.
Would like to get Pansonic Plasma, but because of the dithering, plasmas are not good for being used as monitors.

[Arc07]

I tried 5760x1080 (ASUS 5870 Eyefinity 6 GPU) in the beta with three screens. Framerate sucked.

[Araelus]

The real way to do this is with 3+ projectors, so much cheaper, no bezels, and you can build your screen to be curved if you want(though the game really needs to support it).

Could you recommend any projectors, screens, combos etc. for something like this? Even with just one projector ... I was checking newegg off the cuff and it seems all the HD setups are as expensive as a monitor or more (screen prices especially seem ridiculous, in the multi-thousand dollar range if getting more than one).

Been debating changing the home TV to a large wall-projector style anyway, might as well ask.

[sarsha]

Doesn't projector have time span by the hours?

A lot of time in MMO you just stand there waiting for something to happen.

[Vuitton]

The beginning of .hack//

(goggle headset + mic)

!!

http://baronshobbies.com/blog/wp-con...043-Medium.jpg

(note due to unattractiveness: this is not me.)

[aalryn]

Could you recommend any projectors, screens, combos etc. for something like this? Even with just one projector ... I was checking newegg off the cuff and it seems all the HD setups are as expensive as a monitor or more (screen prices especially seem ridiculous, in the multi-thousand dollar range if getting more than one).

Been debating changing the home TV to a large wall-projector style anyway, might as well ask.

Epson has a really nice 1080p projector right now for only $1500 bucks. Mine was a good bit more than that, but I bought it a while ago. I have to say, having a 120" tv is extremely nice.

As far as 3D projectors, not so sure. I haven't been in the market so I haven't looked for them. I know you can simulate a polarized 3D effect using two projectors and polarizing filters really easily.

[Azure247]

I have a 3d 720p projector, the acer h5360 that I use with nvidia 3d vision. I have watched monsters vs alien 3d, cloudy with a chance of meatballs 3d, and tons of various 3d clips. The image quality is surprisingly amazing at 110 inch diagonal and the 3d certainly has more "pop" than on my alienware optx 3d monitor.

[Fiarlia]

Bah, I only have dual monitors set up, and my character would be split right in the middle. I don't think 3 monitors would bother me, I'd get used to, and ignore the splits in the display... but cutting my character right in half would suck.

Doesn't matter anyway, as unfortunately, my two monitors aren't the same resolution. One 1920x1080 and one (older flatscreen from my last PC) 1280x1024. Guess I'll just stick with single monitor gamesplay and second to look at shit/watch Netflix.

[Alderaan]

Planning on setting up a 3 monitor setup when i build my new PC in the fall. My question is, what's the standard resolution to look into? I'm seeing 1920x1080 and 1920x1200. Is one being phased out in favor of the other or is it just a matter of choice?

[Jojimbo]

1920x1080 is a lot more common now (mainly due to 1080p). 1920x1200 is prefered by a lot of people, because you get more screen space

It's choice at the end of the day, but I'll go for 1920x1200 if they are good monitors.

[Araelus]

1920x1200 is more likely to be a high-quality display (IPS - In Plane Switching) which, among other benefits, gives you the option to rotate the monitor into portrait mode with no loss of coloration.

Most 1920x1080 monitors will be TN (twisted nematic) which have very limited true color viewing angles, but they're cheaper. Always check the screen type in addition to native resolution.

[excildor]

when I 1st saw 3 monitors lined up I thought "thats dumb, the bezels...". then I saw ffxiv at e3, and my intrest ramped a bit. after watching some vids around the net I'm sold. not on the 3d but the extra visual info.

but pushing 6million+ pixels isnt going to happen with my rig anytime soon. So I'm going to shoot for running in 720p. Grab some small monitors to get my foot in the door. then move to hdtvs, 720p is only going to get cheaper.

I've got a 720 dlp projector. and an lcd monitor. bolth look great to me, and the lcd is junk really, 8ms, low contrast.

[Croy]

Just thought I'd mention that if you can 'hack' the benchmark to go fullscreen. The nvidia 3D tech does work with it compared to FFXI which doesn't. Got to see what it would look like in 3D recently and I'll tell you one thing, even if I only use it for Cutscenes it will be well worth the price. The rain effects on the ship were awesome and all the 3D models that once seemed bland looked alot better with full 3D depth. Main issue was pop in (can be jarring) but I look at that as a product of the alpha benchmark rather then a mark against the final product. Just thought I'd mention it for those select few others with the Nvidia glasses but don't have the beta to test it.

I'd link people to the hack but its bookmarked on another computer that I'm not at currently.

[bluefan]

Just thought I'd mention that if you can 'hack' the benchmark to go fullscreen. The nvidia 3D tech does work with it compared to FFXI which doesn't. Got to see what it would look like in 3D recently and I'll tell you one thing, even if I only use it for Cutscenes it will be well worth the price. The rain effects on the ship were awesome and all the 3D models that once seemed bland looked alot better with full 3D depth. Main issue was pop in (can be jarring) but I look at that as a product of the alpha benchmark rather then a mark against the final product. Just thought I'd mention it for those select few others with the Nvidia glasses but don't have the beta to test it.

I'd link people to the hack but its bookmarked on another computer that I'm not at currently.

Good to hear :D

I'm still a bit on the fence about the 3D, as I would have to replace my 24" MVA panel with a TN one.

[Cloud]

Just thought I'd mention that if you can 'hack' the benchmark to go fullscreen. The nvidia 3D tech does work with it compared to FFXI which doesn't. Got to see what it would look like in 3D recently and I'll tell you one thing, even if I only use it for Cutscenes it will be well worth the price. The rain effects on the ship were awesome and all the 3D models that once seemed bland looked alot better with full 3D depth. Main issue was pop in (can be jarring) but I look at that as a product of the alpha benchmark rather then a mark against the final product. Just thought I'd mention it for those select few others with the Nvidia glasses but don't have the beta to test it.

I'd link people to the hack but its bookmarked on another computer that I'm not at currently.

Thanks a lot for the insight, Croy!
Really happy to hear about your impressions! It's going to be great playing FFXIV on huge 3DTV.

[Jinko]

Full screen hack can be found here.
http://bygzam.seesaa.net/article/153685727.html

Download it and toss the d3d9.dll into \FFXIVBenchmark\data and you're GOOD TO GO!