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  1. #1
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    Old Traits and Abilities Leveld up

    As in the other thread about new things in the update some guy posted that WHM get Auto Regen II (2hp/tick) at 76 and that SAM Hasso STR bonus increased past 75.

    Sorry if you think it doesn't warrant its own thread but if these two jobs got enhancements to old traits and abilities then I hope other jobs also got new tiers to their traits.

    I think we should look for other increases for other jobs, sadly it's kinda hard to test some traits but being aware that there is a possibility might spark some findings. Again lock and toss me in the cellar if you think it's unworthy a new thread.

    Putting unknown level for all abilities that's not confirmed which level they are obtained. Safe to assume they're all 76 or higher.

    I put all the traits in test list, but no resist ones since they are hard to test. Also put some JAs that can have some change and they are generally easy to test.

    ======== WAR ========

    Confirmed:

    Warcry (Need exact % of increase)
    Shield Mastery - Lvl.80

    To be tested:
    Defense Bonus
    Double Attack rate
    Attack Bonus

    Provoke (Change in enmity, seeing as SE added lots of tank things to WAR)
    Berserk
    Defender
    Aggressor

    ======== WHM ========

    Confirmed:
    Auto Regen II (2hp/tick)- Lvl.76

    To be tested:
    Magic Defense bonus (IV at 70)

    ======== MNK ========

    Confirmed:

    To be tested:
    Counter
    Subtle Blow (IV at 65)
    Max HP Boost (IV at 70)
    Kick Attacks (II at 71)

    Boost
    Dodge
    Focus
    Chakra
    Chi Blast
    Counterstance

    ======== BLM ========

    Confirmed:

    To be tested:
    Conserve MP
    Magic Burst Bonus (obtained at 45)

    ======== THF ========

    Confirmed:

    To be tested:
    Gilfinder
    Evasion Bonus
    Triple Attack

    ======== RDM ========

    Confirmed:
    Fast Cast IV (Possible 25% Casting time, 12,5% recast, needs more testing) - Lvl.76

    To be tested:
    Magic Attack Bonus (II at 40)
    Clear Mind (III at 75)

    ======== PLD ========

    Confirmed:
    Defense Bonus V (13 defense from last trait, 61 total. 12 if you also get 1 defense from your level)

    To be tested:
    Shield Mastery (III at 75)
    Auto Refresh (I at 35)

    ======== DRK ========

    Confirmed:
    Attack Bonus V (12 atk, total +60 atk) - Lvl.76

    To be tested:
    Last Resort

    ======== BST ========

    Confirmed:

    To be tested:
    Wide Scan (IV at 60)

    Charm (Length on EM. 5,15 on EM at 75?)

    ======== BRD ========

    Confirmed:
    March (Haste):
    567-572 - 123/1024
    573-579 - 124/1024
    580-586 - 125/1024
    587-593 - 126/1024
    594-599 - 127/1024
    600-606 - 128/1024
    607-613 - 129/1024
    614-620 - 130/1024

    To be tested:
    New tiers on songs with the added skill levels

    ======== RNG ========

    Confirmed:

    To be tested:
    Wide Scan (V at 60)
    Accuracy Bonus (IV at 70)

    Barrage (Number of shots)

    ======== SAM ========

    Confirmed:
    Hasso - 11 STR - Lvl.77 (+1 STR/7 levels)

    To be tested:

    ======== NIN ========

    Confirmed:

    To be tested:
    Dual Wield (IV at 65)
    Subtle Blow (V at 75)

    ======== DRG ========

    Confirmed:
    Accuracy Bonus III (Possibly same as RNG, +13 acc total +35 acc) - Unknown level
    Jump critical hit change in animation.

    To be tested:
    Conserve TP (New but still, you gain it at 45)

    ======== SMN ========

    Confirmed:
    Duration on Bloodpact Wards increased, 5min on Hastega.
    300 cap on elemental siphon, +30 with right elemental.

    To be tested:
    Max MP Boost (IV at 70)
    Clear Mind (V at 70)

    ======== BLU ========

    Confirmed:
    See BLU thread

    To be tested:
    See BLU thread

    ======== COR ========

    Confirmed:
    Evoker's roll on SJ:
    Without SMN:
    1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9 = +1
    5, 10, 11 = +2

    With SMN:
    1, 2, 3, 4, 9 = +1
    5, 6, 7, 8, 10 = +2
    11 = +3

    11 roll last 10min even on SJ.

    To be tested:

    ======== PUP ========

    Confirmed:
    Spiritreaver Thunder IV - Lvl.76 (Skill level unknown, 5/5 magic merits)
    Spiritreaver Stone V - Lvl.77 (Skill level unknown, 5/5 magic merits)

    To be tested:
    Martial Arts (III at 75)
    Evasion Bonus (III at 60)

    Elemental and Healing magic spells with higher skill level and different head/frames.

    ======== DNC ========

    Confirmed:

    To be tested:
    Evasion Bonus (III at 75)
    Dual Wield (I at 20)
    Accuracy Bonus (II at 60)
    Subtle Blow (III at 65)

    ======== SCH ========

    Confirmed:
    Clear Mind V (Lvl. 76)

    To be tested:
    Max MP Boost (I at 30)

    ======== Other ========

    To be tested:

    Spells:
    Another tier of Bio/Elemental debuffs

  2. #2
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    I'm curious if MNK got another Martial Arts trait. I'm still 76 and haven't played too much to notice, but would be great info to know.

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    PUP Martial Arts? Auto-Refresh II for SMN? XD Can only dream

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    I just partied as 76 MNK, and things didn't seem faster to me...

    If anything at all, MAYBE we got a boost to Counter - but I was /NIN so really didn't notice...

    I'd test Counter and Subtle Blow first...

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    probably just eyeballing but i rarely guard and at 76 in a PT in lufaise meadows I had quite a few noticeable guard procs/skillups while /nin. Hopefully not just random luck but who knows. (like 151 skill)
    Edit: on MNK btw.

  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    probably just eyeballing but i rarely guard and at 76 in a PT in lufaise meadows I had quite a few noticeable guard procs/skillups while /nin. Hopefully not just random luck but who knows. (like 151 skill)
    Edit: on MNK btw.
    An increased Guard rate would be way too nice of SE.

  7. #7
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    yes +11 str on hasso 77-80 . so might be +12 on 82-85?

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    I've actually been guarding a lot more on PUP too. I got 4 skill levels since yesterday alone. o.o

    Take that as you will. =o

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    Unless SE changed the JT rhythm, MNK won't get MA 7 until 90/91 and PUP will never get MA 4...ok, MAYBE at 99, but only if they fudge it like they did with MNK.

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    Check for Attack Bonus with DRG,WAR, DRK and ACC Bonus with DRG,RNG,DNC. Maybe a new Fast Cast or MAB.. I wonder if DRG gets Conserve TP II since we get it earlier than RNG and DNC.

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    If following past trends..

    BLM would get:
    90 - MAB V (36 MAB total)
    90 - Clear Mind VI (+30, +33, +36...)

    and maybe another tier of Conserve MP and MB Bonus.

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    Currently at Miseraux Coast camp on BLM. With fully merited Burst II I hit 2.7k on a IT Vulture at level sync 75. Getting around 1.6k only without MB, so we're seeing a huge boost from MB Bonus.

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    I am not sure if this is the place to post / ask this question but here goes.

    I noticed something odd today when my RDM levelled to 76. Dagger was uncapped at 250 (from being capped at 75) and Sword was "blued" out indicating it was capped. I have 8/8 sword merits currently but I always thought merits didn't affect the "total" cap.

    tldr; is RDM levelling faster in Dagger over Sword with the new levels?

    I have a feeling I am an idiot and I'm missing something...

  14. #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Sobie View Post
    I am not sure if this is the place to post / ask this question but here goes.

    I noticed something odd today when my RDM levelled to 76. Dagger was uncapped at 250 (from being capped at 75) and Sword was "blued" out indicating it was capped. I have 8/8 sword merits currently but I always thought merits didn't affect the "total" cap.

    tldr; is RDM levelling faster in Dagger over Sword with the new levels?

    I have a feeling I am an idiot and I'm missing something...
    The number is blue, but possible it changed from what it was and you didn't notice? Likely you have it capped from another job at a higher number, so you leveled up, and it stayed blue because you'd already gotten that skill level on a different job, so you "leveled into" it, as it were.

    Only thing I can think of.

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    ...The most obvious question would be if you leveled a different job with a higher Sword skill cap.

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    Do you have PLD or something leveled where your sword skill is actually over the cap for RDM?

    Seems like the only logical thing to me.

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    Capped sword skill on a 75 PLD (or BLU) would still be higher than RDM's sword skill at 76, which would make Sword skill still blue at 76RDM.

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    RDM & WAR are both B in Sword. BLU is A- & PLD is A+.

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    Yeah my bad, was thinking of BLU.

  20. #20
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    You are all correct. I have PLD *and* BLU

    Quote Originally Posted by Sobie View Post
    I have a feeling I am an idiot and I'm missing something...
    I am also correct!

    :/

    Thanks for the replies!

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