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    New PLD ability

    Since I didn't see a tanking related post relating to this, I'll start this new thread. With this update SE added a new spell to SCH (Libra) that can test the enmity of all players in a pt, while this is cool and all we found something strange with this. No one can go above 100% enmity; however, PLDs new ability (Divine Emblem) when combined with Flash seems to not be working properly (or maybe it is) as it can raise you above the 100% hate threshold that no other job can go above, or so we've found. Has anyone noticed anything else about this ability that's strange?

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    How long can the PLD keep himself at 101%?

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    It seems to be as long as the PLD can keep it at that level. I was unable to take hate off the other PLD even at 100% enmity (I was Lv77 at the time).

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    Libra is a Job Ability and the way it works is when it says someone is 100% that means they are at the top of the hatelist.

    So if 3 people were on a mob hate list it'd show

    Player A : 100%
    Player B : 70%
    Player C : 25%

    My assumption is that this means that player B is at 70% of Player A's total hate, and Player C is at 25% of A's total hate. So whoever is at 100% is the general base line.

    Havent done any major HNM tanking but Im gonna assume 2 plds duo tanking like Tiamat would have it show 1 pld @ 100% and another pld maybe @ 99% meaning they are both at/near cap.

    Just wanted to share that info incase that helps you in anyway.

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    So is this just a case of Libra not being able to reset the baseline?
    Has someone tried if getting lots of hate on player A and then a little less on player B, then killing player A and continuing gathering hate on player B will reproduce this effect?

    ...Or it might just be Divine Emblem doing something funky...

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    just get a thf to collab/accomp to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed View Post
    just get a thf to collab/accomp to find out.
    ...Or that, yeah.
    *gets slapped by his THF*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enygma55 View Post
    Libra is a Job Ability and the way it works is when it says someone is 100% that means they are at the top of the hatelist.

    So if 3 people were on a mob hate list it'd show

    Player A : 100%
    Player B : 70%
    Player C : 25%

    My assumption is that this means that player B is at 70% of Player A's total hate, and Player C is at 25% of A's total hate. So whoever is at 100% is the general base line.

    Havent done any major HNM tanking but Im gonna assume 2 plds duo tanking like Tiamat would have it show 1 pld @ 100% and another pld maybe @ 99% meaning they are both at/near cap.

    Just wanted to share that info incase that helps you in anyway.
    Yeah normally that is the case, we would have 1 PLD at 100% and another at 98-99% but when you use this ability it lets you exceed 100% to 101% or higher.

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    Could be an off-by-one error... does the counter start at 0% or 1%?

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    Is it going to just 101% or even higher? 101% and nothing more I would suspect an error, but if you can get like 106%s I would consider something like increasing beyond the hate cap or something to that effect.

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    How long do this 101% lasts ?
    The Divine emblem effect shouldn't last over 1 minute, is it the same with this 101% ?
    Also, do the icon wears off after you cast flash ? Or does it stays on ?

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    I mainly posted to see if anyone else has noticed this also, I want to do some more conclusive testing tonight when the only SCH I know with Libra is online. It's hard to say how long it lasts really so far, we found this out in the new content and the stuff was dying every minute anyways. I just know with 100% hate I was unable to pull the mob off the other PLD in the pt with 101% hate. It could very much so be an error with the way things are being added up so I need to do some more tests with it.

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    ok thanks. I just want to get a feel for what's going on so I can figure out the best way to test it. Would be very interesting if it's more than just increased enmity on the next attack, but could also surpass the hate cap in some fashion.

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    If I can get my hands on a scholar, I will try and do some testing.

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    Just had a PLD get 102% enmity, and a Samurai had 100%. Divine Emblem was NOT used. I'm confused.

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    Could be possible that this happens when two people reach the CE cap and one of them has more VE than the other if Divine Emblem isn't the only cause of 101%+ with Libra.

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    I'm guessing its a glitch in libra. its reporting your enmity in relationship to highest person in party, not in relationship to hate cap. Does not mean you can break hate cap.

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    but what if you're already at hate cap?

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    I'm sorry to bust the bubble, but this seems to be more of a Libra-Lag problem than something associated with the new Ability.
    The reason I say this, is because I did a libra in which one player got "323%" hate.

    My reasoning would be that the small-delay after libra is used (First your name, then the rest of the party members) affects this. I would post the screenshot but my postcount is not high enough. I could probably get a friend to post it in a sec.

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