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  1. #1
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    Level 80 and Aggro - And the Robber Crabs shall live on...

    I was bored waiting for weather to pop in the basement of Garlaige Citadel for a magian trial - so I just started killing at random.

    I was a little shocked to see Chamber Beetles still checked easy prey at level 80. All of them did. I killed a handful, and got experience values of 23, 24 and 25.

    I moved into the room with Hellmines and Skeletons, and discovered they still aggroed. Got experience values of 26, 28, 30 and 40. The one that yielded 26 experience also still aggroed.

    Looked up mob levels, Chamber Beetles are 56-58, and Hellmines and Skeletons are 59-62.

    It fit into a neat little package, so I killed a couple of Magic Jugs to fill out the experience values of EP/DC/EM at 80... level 59 was the aggro cutoff at 75, and it's STILL the aggro cutoff at 80.

    I'm not sure if this is working as intended, but I'm sorely disappointed that Dire Bats and Robber Crabs will continue to aggro.

    Lv. 55 = 00 XP (Too Weak)
    Lv. 56 = 23 XP
    Lv. 57 = 24 XP
    Lv. 58 = 25 XP (This level and lower will not aggro under normal circumstances)
    Lv. 59 = 26 XP (Monsters aggro 80s at this level - onward)
    Lv. 60 = 28 XP
    Lv. 61 = 30 XP
    Lv. 62 = 40 XP
    Lv. 63 = 50 XP
    Lv. 64 = 53 XP

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    Despite the annoyance of aggro, its nice that things continue to give xp at 80 when you are trying to find the easiest place to do magian trials or break a latent.

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    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimothy View Post
    Despite the annoyance of aggro, its nice that things continue to give xp at 80 when you are trying to find the easiest place to do magian trials or break a latent.
    more or less this...

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    I still haven't came across anything that aggro'd at 75 and DOESNT aggro at 80. It's bullcrap.

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    Yeah that's hella weak...

    Not as weak as the XIV release news, but still weak.

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    The God Damn Kuno
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    Half the reason I was excited for level up was all that weak ass shit not agroing anymore.

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    Thats what 99 is for.

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    So is it safe to level up because the goblin's beetles in Saur [S] will still check EP at 80?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    So is it safe to level up because the goblin's beetles in Saur [S] will still check EP at 80?
    Yep, did a trial killing those at lv80 and finished in 2 darksdays.

    I knew I wasn't crazy when shit was aggroing me with a level difference greater than 15...

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    CoP Dynamis
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    This was one of the first things I noticed as well after the level increase. It seems like the benefits of being level 80 vs. 75 are awfully minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno View Post
    Half the reason I was excited for level up was all that weak ass shit not agroing anymore.
    To join the chorus, I'll say, "same here" but what else is new.

    If they just made below a certain level gap non-aggressive, regardless of /check, it wouldn't be so bad to have tons of weak easy prey.

    Already works that way for easy prey mobs at level 59 or lower, no aggro, I think. The threshold should be raised.

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    the whitest knight u' know
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    I was expecting Spriggans/Haunts/Skeletons not to aggro so I could finally have a decent/relaxed time finishing my Pet:Macc claws in Eldieme, but nothin' doin'. Bullcrap indeed.

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    The range of how low mobs will check EP (and by extension the level at which they'll stop aggroing) gets wider and wider as you level from 1-75, only makes sense for it to continue to grow even wider 76+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephYuyX View Post
    Thats what moogle charms are for.
    :T

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    i dont understand this. its stuff that was borderline TW at 75 (ep but no aggro) like in the temple of uglypeople. but at level 80 they are STILL ep. but rubber crabs still aggro?

    although i did see some too weak tonberries on the side with the guardian doll

  16. #16
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    they probably scaled robber crabs just to fuck with our minds.

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    They should just make EP shit not aggro period, problem solved. None of this level-guessing.

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    Wtf double-post.

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    Seriously SE allowed 80 to still have same ep as 75 to make doing trial weapons easier and ppl now crying about aggro. Just damn....

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    That is true, I had forgotten that just because something gives XP it doesn't necessarily have to aggro. Just SE douchebaggery as usual.

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