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  1. #1761
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    nnnnnnnnope

  2. #1762
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    If serious, it's old. If not, you got me!
    Well quit the game long time ago so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Since when THF needs gear i though it was AF2 hands + Knife, go hit the mob then gtfo
    You need AF3+2 Feet and AF2+2 Hands now

  4. #1764
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    Sam gear !

    New sam gear I'm using (or plan to use still need the body to drop)


    TP set am down, unkai domaru+2/brego gloves when accuracy needed.
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/254347

    TP set am up same thing with accuracy
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/254357

    Kaiten (justicier/beir+1 when apply, unkai legs +2 when AM down

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/254359

    Any suggestion/obvious thing to improve that I might have miss ?


    I cannot make the 3rd set to work for some reason so here are the gear in it basic kaiten set I guess

    input /equip ear1 "Vulcan's Pearl";
    input /equip ring1 "Pyrosoul Ring";
    input /equip ammo "Thew Bomblet";
    input /equip ring2 "Rajas Ring";
    input /equip neck "Breeze Gorget";
    input /equip body "Phorcys Korazin";
    input /equip hands "Phorcys Mitts";
    input /equip head "Mekira-oto +1";
    input /equip ear2 "Brutal Earring";
    input /equip legs "Ogier's Breeches";
    input /equip sub "Rose Strap";
    input /equip main "Amanomurakumo";
    input /equip feet "Dilaram's Sollerets";
    input /equip back "Atheling Mantle";
    input /equip waist "Breeze Belt";

  5. #1765
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    The 2nd and 3rd link go to the same set unless i'm missing something

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    Totally failed at copy/past link, should be propper set now, ty.

  7. #1767
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    Unkai Sune-Ate +2 for WS.

  8. #1768
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccl View Post
    New sam gear I'm using (or plan to use still need the body to drop)


    TP set am down, unkai domaru+2/brego gloves when accuracy needed.
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/254347

    TP set am up same thing with accuracy
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/254357

    Kaiten (justicier/beir+1 when apply, unkai legs +2 when AM down

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/254359

    Any suggestion/obvious thing to improve that I might have miss ?
    TP:
    I honestly would swap Ganesha's Mala with Unkai Nodawa -- then use Atheling instead of Misuuchi Kappa. The gain of +20 ATK, +3 STR and +5 Accuracy will outweigh the chance of the 2% quadruple attack.

    Also your accuracy set isn't worth changing to.

    WS:
    Unkai Sune-Ate +2 (as said above)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerodok View Post
    Also your accuracy set isn't worth changing to.
    Even for stuff like T6VW/new T2 ?

    Also assuming I don't need the accuracy from nodowa, 20att 3str > 2%QA still ?

    Is there a minimum to the extra TP we get back when conserve tp proc ? I'll go back to Unkai +2, I can prolly change kappa for atheling on proc on AM down and keep my hit build ?

    What about am up ? Hagneia => thew on proc ? or can It be big enough to do Ogiers => phorcys hand ?

    Is there a rule for spellcast to put different tp set depending on ws tp return ? If not I'll just pay more attention after wsing.

    Tyvm for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccl View Post
    Even for stuff like T6VW/new T2 ?
    The only reason you'd ever need an accuracy set in VW is if you were proccing polearm or something else.

    Also assuming I don't need the accuracy from nodowa, 20att 3str > 2%QA still ?
    Yes.

    Is there a minimum to the extra TP we get back when conserve tp proc ? I'll go back to Unkai +2, I can prolly change kappa for atheling on proc on AM down and keep my hit build ?
    Assuming you are talking about save TP, but, if you are using Atmacite of Discipline and/or Miser's Roll, it caps at 50 TP saved. So, anywhere between 0-50 depending on what you are using.

    There's nothing wrong with your build now, for AM down, if you have AM up, you can swap out your sets to accommodate for the STP you gain.

    Is there a rule for spellcast to put different tp set depending on ws tp return ? If not I'll just pay more attention after wsing.
    Why would you want to put on a different TP set depending on your return?

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    I meant Conserve tp for stuff outside vw like nyzle/adl/legion, different build on tp return to be optimal I guess, like if conserve tp kick in and put me at 22 tp on ws, I can use phorcys hand instead of ogier hand, but I never really looked into conserve tp so idk if it's doable.

    What buff do you get that you don't need accuracy on T6 jeuno ? Maybe I'm biased cause I only did it with tp bonus gkt and not since amano but accuracy was far from cap on those and I needed sushi to be somewhat decent.

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    Even with stalwart/braver/aggressor whenever they are up, accuracy seemed to be an issue, maybe I'm wrong, I'll try to parse next time I'm going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccl View Post
    Even with stalwart/braver/aggressor whenever they are up, accuracy seemed to be an issue, maybe I'm wrong, I'll try to parse next time I'm going.
    If you are having accuracy issues on T6 Jeuno I think you have bigger problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerodok View Post
    If you are having accuracy issues on T6 Jeuno I think you have bigger problems.
    Pretty much, I guess I should stop going with random 10-15min T2/T6 shout and make my own or find a good group that does it.

    tyvm for your input ^^

  16. #1776
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    Doesn't auto cap you like everyone seems to think.

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    Some fucking terrible/bullshit advice being thrown out.

    There is plenty of shit that uncaps your accuracy, use Unkai Feet+2 - Shoha is multi hit and you're wanting to land all of them in the times you do get a proc. Shoha's attack bonus also only applies to the first hit.

    Kaiten's main boon is it allows you to WS in 18STP for Shoha to maintain a true 5hit (WS+4). Kaiten's aftermath is not as awesome or necessary as apocs though.

    Your Kaiten set needs Unkai Mantle+ShuraKabuto+1 with 3WSDMG as well.

    If I can manage to parse 92~93% accuracy on Bismark and have noticeable accuracy problems in Legion 2nd waves, you can be rest assured you will still need accuracy with your relic and relying on temps that don't necessarily auto cap you is poor form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Some fucking terrible/bullshit advice being thrown out.

    There is plenty of shit that uncaps your accuracy, use Unkai Feet+2 - Shoha is multi hit and you're wanting to land all of them in the times you do get a proc. Shoha's attack bonus also only applies to the first hit.

    Kaiten's main boon is it allows you to WS in 18STP for Shoha to maintain a true 5hit (WS+4). Kaiten's aftermath is not as awesome or necessary as apocs though.

    Your Kaiten set needs Unkai Mantle+ShuraKabuto+1 with 3WSDMG as well.

    If I can manage to parse 92~93% accuracy on Bismark and have noticeable accuracy problems in Legion 2nd waves, you can be rest assured you will still need accuracy with your relic and relying on temps that don't necessarily auto cap you is poor form.
    Oh I know about shoha accuracy/attack boost, that was set is just for kaiten, I do have Shura head +1 with 3ws%dmg +, using motenten spreadsheet, I have mekira oto+1 pulling ahead of it on everything I tried it on, same for atheling mantle, my reasoning toward feet was just for kaiten when accuracy is capped.

    Also, with chaos/rdc/dia II I have kaiten beating shoha on qilin/pil/fodder at least. Do we have any estimation on T6 jeuno/new T2 defense ? I still have to try them since 99 amano, but most likely gonna have to shoha them.

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    Mekira-oto +1 is only going to win when the fTP bonus is active or you have a good deal of level correction.

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    Alright, this MNK is back again and needs help. I was able to get somethings done with my MNK and well now thy I've started VWNM I'm having a hard time getting "okay" numbers....



    Here's my TP set.
    Vere(90)/x/x/Potestas Bomblet
    Tantra/Rancors/Brutal/Moonshade(ACC+4/Regain+1)
    Tantra/Tantra/Rajas/Epony
    Atheling/BB/Tantra/Tantra



    Outside/VWNM WS

    Vere(90)/x/x/Potestas Bomblet
    Tantra/Rancors/Brutal/Flame Pearl
    Tantra/Heafoc/Rajas/Pyrosoul
    Atheling/BB/Shura +1/Tantra



    Inside/Trash mobs WS

    Vere(90)/x/x/Potestas Bomblet
    Tantra/Light/Brutal/Flame Pearl
    Tantra/Heafoc/Rajas/Pyrosoul
    Atheling/Light/Shura +1/Tantra

    As you can see, nothing really changed from the two WS sets but I'm looking for tips on all three sets... I really have no idea where to go from here. D:

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